Whilst I haven't received any direct complaints on recent threads on LUV talk, and therefore haven't taken any direct action, I do request that all participants try to engage in some semblance of civil discourse. Participation in LUV mailing lists is a privilege, not a right, and it can be revoked. Creating an unfriendly environment for others is contrary to the objectives of the organisation. If a poster writes something that you find offensive or wrong, by all means seek to correct that idea. But leave personal criticism out of the discussion. Thank you. -- Lev Lafayette, BA (Hons), GradCertTerAdEd (Murdoch), GradCertPM, MBA (Tech Mngmnt) (Chifley) mobile: 0432 255 208 RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt