Hello Andrew, On Mon, 2014-04-21 at 02:51 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
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Definitely too much politics here and it would be befit me re-iterate the /political/ nature of the climate gate lies/fraud, which really is purely political [even if science tries to muddy the water] !!!!
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When the nights are cool, do you use an extra blanket to keep warm, do you put on extra warm clothing during the day? The basic physics that make that effective are the same as the global warming and climate change. With human law, ignorance is no excuse. With the "laws" of nature, they do not countenance ignorance. What any one of us does is insignificant, but what humanity does as a whole does add up and is highly significant. The CO2 levels in the atmosphere have been rising since the start of the Industrial Revolution, and average global temperature has tracked that, albeit with significant noise imposed on the signal. Despite denials, there has been significant changes to sea levels, both from melting ice (land based glaciers and ice caps), and changes in ocean temperature. Some of the so called non warming periods have been when the ocean absorbs more heat, with effects that we are still learning about. If CO2 had no greenhouse effect, this planet would not support life. It is not the only greenhouse gas in the atmosphere, but it is significant. Another one is the amount of water vapour, and there are others such as methane. The balance has been shifted, significantly, by human activities. To deny is to deny the basics of physics and chemistry, and fluid dynamics and mechanics, which our bodies depend on, as well as all our technology, including the very computer you are using, and the electricity generation from fossil fuels, and the very real alternatives. Andrew, you and Brent Wallis and a few others make this political. It is factual. Trying to dismiss as you do is a disservice to yourselves as well as everything else on the planet, human, animal, vegetable and fungi and whatever I may have omitted. It is a complex web of life. What may look like a nuisance species that is unnecessary, can be crucial. I do not advocate the return of smallpox, but even the elimination of that virus has had significant consequences and effects on the balance. Denial does a disservice to all. Regards, Mark Trickett