.. you have this: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows7/windows-update-error-0x80243004 "If you receive Windows Update error 0x80243004 when Windows Update checks for new updates, the error means that the notification icon for Windows Update has disappeared. This prevents Windows Update from installing new updates." I wait until the error happens on Debian, maybe as "Cron cannot run because there is no gnome-cron-applet-icon in the current user session" The current direction of the Linux ecosystem and discussions ("Linux desktop needs Gnome and Gnome needs systemd and systemd grabs udev and.. in short Gnome=systemd=Linux") makes it a quite likely scenario in the future. How did the Windows update error appear? Maybe one developer wrote the code and released it. He had an Update icon on its desktop to send the important message "The update is running" to. After release they got complaints from obnoxious people called users. The developer was faced with the bug. Solution: "Make the icon mandatory and crate an error code!" Brilliant, just reminds me of .. nevermind. Regards Peter