Hello All, Interesting reading this thread, we all have opinions, some better backed than others. Not all those who claim to be Christian are, on several grounds. I am fed up with hearing all those sermons, I want to _SEE_ the sermon instead. There is also a tendency to believe in god in the image of man, rather than man in the image of god, unrealized and without comprehension of the distinction. It is also possible to support almost any position with a selective reading and quoting of the bible, I am suspicious of anyone doing too much detail quoting of the bible, especially when taken without the context of when the writing is about, who the nominal author is, and not neglecting the effects of the multiple translations and time it was an oral tradition. There is room for different religions, and even variations within the various faiths, but it requires a large measure of tolerance that others may have a different background and yet be able to go forward together. Those who do not tolerate other faiths are being unfaithful to the community spirit that is present in all the real faiths. I regard the "Prosperity Gospel" as a severe misreading and corruption, and definitely not truly Christian. Regards, Mark Trickett