On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:14:16 Brent Wallis wrote:
Get Bandy to come over with me to Manus, paid for by himself and not a donor...get him to truly understand.
You keep saying that people should accompany you on a visit to PNG. Why would anyone want to accept such an "offer"?
Have I not been clear enough? Let me elucidate .... and make a point Yourself and others take the PNG people for granted....
You in particular make comment on other cultures and IMHO you have no right unless you have actually lived in these places. Not some 1st world Euro coffee destination...I mean a place where you have to live as locals do in a 3rd world context. Where your personal health and well being is threatened by malaria and heavens knows any other number of diseases and cultural issues. You have made comment in the past on how cool and righteous that it is to live as a hunter / gatherer on mother earth but in the end, you have no idea how much these guys want to have what you have...electricity that turns on with a switch, clean water out of a tap and be able to stroll down your own street without fear. ...and thats the whole Green fuktard problem. Too much 1st world angst over 3rd world cultures that you have no right to comment on cos you really only read it in a book!!. Why do I keep trolling you and the Green's on it? Well you keep making sweeping comments based on Wiki Articles and others "blogs".... its great to point to links of "truth" but if I am subject to another ad hominem argument over this I will vomit. Show me I am wrong! Place your own neck and cash on the line and prove me wrong! Fucking get out of Lygon Street and travel to a place where life can be lost because of a sip bad water or a mosi bite. Unless you and the rest of your ilk understand such then YOU CAN NOT BE ADVOCATES FOR THOSE THAT CLAIM THEY ARE ESCAPING FROM SAME! With Respect, I sincerely thought you were better than this. BW
There is a middle ground in every discourse friend Russell. Solutions to
such is what makes us humans automatically revere people like Ghandi and Mandella who both did it so well...during a monumental and required social change, they minimised human suffering and found the middle that satisfied both sides...this is what places them as undeniable movers in human history. There is a place for opposite views, and there is a time for conciliation...
The British wanted to keep the Indian subcontinent as a colony and white South Africans wanted to keep political control and not allow the vast majority of the population to outvote them. Grandi and Mandella succeeded by rejecting any plans for a compromise in that regard.
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