Hi Lev, all - I didn't imply that legal and corrupt are mutually exclusive. My point is much simple - Goldman is not corrupt. I just was through the list of Goldman controversies and couldn't see where they have acted dishonestly. "Links to governments" category doesn't cut it - corporations and trade unions that are closely linked to governments are dime a dozen, all over the world. I simply don't understand why Goldman is singled out and persistently labelled "corrupt" and such. Regards Slav -----Original Message----- From: luv-talk-bounces@lists.luv.asn.au [mailto:luv-talk-bounces@lists.luv.asn.au] On Behalf Of Lev Lafayette To claim that "[n]one of that fits a definition of corruption" is demonstrably false. For example Kaufmann and Vicente have gone to great lengths to explain how an activity can be legal *and* corrupt "This e-mail and any attachments to it (the "Communication") is, unless otherwise stated, confidential, may contain copyright material and is for the use only of the intended recipient. If you receive the Communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete the Communication and the return e-mail, and do not read, copy, retransmit or otherwise deal with it. Any views expressed in the Communication are those of the individual sender only, unless expressly stated to be those of Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited ABN 11 005 357 522, or any of its related entities including ANZ Bank New Zealand Limited (together "ANZ"). ANZ does not accept liability in connection with the integrity of or errors in the Communication, computer virus, data corruption, interference or delay arising from or in respect of the Communication."