Thanks.

Bianca - on my phone, please excuse my brevity.

On Dec 20, 2012 6:39 PM, "Trent W. Buck" <trentbuck@gmail.com> wrote:
Bianca Gibson wrote:
> OK, so for a basic player to just play music while at the gym what do you
> think?
>
> Here you can get sony, years old irivers (some still floating around
> in stores), random cheapo ones and ipods. I don't think I'm missing
> any.
>
> criteria:
> - pretty basic
> - 4+ GB
> - moderately decent audio (pleasurable to listen to, but nothing fancy)
> - small (<100g)
> - no need for specific software to put music on
> - likely to last a few years
> - very preferably a clip.

I think it meets all those criteria.  It has a clip, and it clips
fairly sturdily onto the device, but I wouldn't trust the clip part to
clip onto my clothes.

> I'm not aware of anything else available locally that meets that criteria.

Nod.  I think the kicker is not requiring iTunes, which eliminates the
majority of floor stock for mobs like JB.

As a lurker pointed out, there is rockbox, but I get the impression
that's only viable for units that are at least six months old, so the
devs have had time to reverse engineer them and suchlike.  Probably
rockbox-capable devices are above your budget anyway.

> It does have shuffle:
> http://www.sony-asia.com/microsite/walkman_i-manuals/NWZ-B172F-B173F/eng/contents/03/02/01/01.html

Oh, OK.  That was non-obvious from the icon.