On 16/10/2012 11:53 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
As I previously mentioned the telco plans that involve "free" phones in Australia are unreasonably expensive. So the telcos try and force people to buy the bad plans instead of being competitive.
Yes, I agree to a point, but even Telcos need to make some money to keep building their networks -- the ones that you want or need to use....
Making money doesn't require giving users bad deals. One might argue that the confusing pricing models that they use are required because everyone does it (this is an argument in favor of regulated contracts), but offering so-called "free" phones that cost significantly more than buying them outright is pretty close to fraud.
I agree, but I also don't understand why people pay extortionate prices for junk foods at the supermarket -- it's like "convenience store" pricing these days.
Best to buy a phone from Kogan and then find a telco that will support it properly. The TIO is a good option if a telco doesn't do so.
I don't understand why you are so hell bent on pushing Kogan, do you have share in them ;)
It depends on too many factors, your own choices may or may not suit others.... if others are in your same boat, then your advice will be fine for them; but not everyone is like you.
If you know of a cheaper way of buying phones then please let us know. I'll keep using Kogan as the base line for comparing prices until I find another company that's cheap and convenient.
I definitely say "buyer beware", particularly if you are in a position where you choose to buy local and pay the normal taxes and where appropriate claim back GST accordingly.
The vast majority of people here can't claim back GST.
How in the hell would you know that? Not from a Wikipedia survey, your favourite tool for "proof" .... sheesh. Cheers A.