Quoting russell@coker.com.au (russell@coker.com.au):
People who identify as "evangelicals" are a very large subculture.
No, they are not a very 'large subculture', not compared to, say, stamp-collectors. Besides, you are moving the goalposts. You had the gall to make a sweeping generalisation, in profound ignorance, about 'most Americans' not reading the Bible, based on your lazy-ass overinterpretation of a polemic (albeit an excellent one) recently removed from the Forbes magazine Web site that -- as an incidental fact -- said absolutely nothing about knowledge of the Bible. You committed polemical overreach on several different grounds, and I called you on it. Attempting after the fact the point of contention was whether the evangelical subculture is 'large' or not is transparent obfuscation, and frankly looks a great deal like your reacting to being in a hole by furiously digging.
Using the word "subculture" in this context seems misleading as it seems to imply that they are small and lack influence.
I neither said nor implied that, and I note, once again, a convenient and slightly devious attempt on your part to change the subject (understandably, I know, because your statements were stupid and untenable, so it's expedient to deflect and distract). Sorry, Russell, that was just not the point at all. What I said was a point of statistical inference, that it was absurd to extrapolate from a subculture, particularly one concentrated heavily in the Old South, to 'most Americans' -- leaving completely aside the dubious leap of logic you needed to reach your handwave about Bible-reading, which has no real foundation in the cited article. For purposes of my statistical point about it being utterly irrational to extrapolate from a regionally-linked subculture to 'most Americans', it is completely irrelevant, and a suspiciously convenient smokescreen, for you to now suddenly want to debate what _type_ of subculture it is. That's completely irrelevant to the point, and I'm not going to participate in your attempt to distract and deflect now that I blew up your poor logic, sloppy thinking, and -- ironically -- apparently paltry knowledge of the Bible. I'm not going to spend more time fisking the rest of your post, because at a quick glance it looks like more distracting, deflecting, chamging the subject, and ignoring the point. I'm not going to play that game, as it is vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher. Just one thing:
I don't think that knowledge of Christian based religions is outside my area of competence.
Of course you don't. That's how Dunning-Kreuger Syndrome works. (See also D.J. Trump, Toddler-in-Chief.)
LOL. Do you not know who won the last presidential election?
Hillary Rodham Clinton, but then vote manipulation in several key states illegally changed the result. Russell, do NOT have the unmitigated gall to lecture me about my own country. Have you learned nothing from having me pin your ears back a few hours ago? If so, I do not volunteer to conduct remedial education on you, as I have many more fruitful pursuits on which to lavish my limited lifetime. Good luck. With someone else. And fsck off with the transpacific wowserism, by the way.