From: "Andrew McGlashan" <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
On 23/04/2014 2:02 PM, Bianca Gibson wrote:
*Bad* research that is not really science is manipulated to make a point. In *real* science you try to disprove and challenge your hypothesis. Try to find holes in it.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is a political situation, not a science situation and perhaps in 10 or 20 years time [but definitely in the future] the fraud will be well proven and the gullibility of the people will also be laughed at.
Well, this seems to be a very scientific approach from your side;-) Unrelated to this discussion, today I stumbled over some activities of the American Koch brothers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_activities_of_the_Koch_brothers#Clima... "The Koch brothers have played an active role in opposing climate change legislation...The Koch Foundation is a major funder of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project, an effort to address the criticism of records of the earth's surface temperatures. At least two of the project's seven scientists are seen as climate change skeptics by many in the climate science world." Here about this project: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Earth_Surface_Temperature#July_2012_an... In an op-ed published in the New York Times on 28 July 2012, Muller announced further findings from the project. He said their analysis showed that average global land temperatures had increased by 2.5 °F (1.4 °C) in 250 years, with the increase in the last 50 years being 1.5 °F (0.8 °C), and it seemed likely that this increase was entirely due to human caused greenhouse gas emissions. His opening paragraph stated: "Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I'm now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause." I spent Easter with a friend studying agriculture. She meets other students, also living in rural areas, in places like Orange, Wagga Wagga regularly. Most of them, according to her, consider the "climate sceptics" and resulting politics as "completely nuts". They see worrying symptoms on their farms, some hold by families for generations. Some of the families have records going back few generations and have not seen some alarming patterns before. These students basically worry that current politics (not) addressing these issues will render their farms worthless during their life time already. Regards Peter