Quoting Russell Coker (russell@coker.com.au):
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 16:50:58 Tim Josling wrote:
Tim, I don't expect you to consider these issues or change your opinion of women. I'm writing this for the benefit of other people who are less misogynistic than you.
Again, what's with the amateur psychology and mind reading? Misogyny, cowardice, homophobia...
One doesn't need to be a psychologist or telepathic to know that people who cite a misogynistic site like returnofkings.com are misogynists.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/...
[attempting to catch up on this unproductive thread] Russell, I think you're a little quick to jump on Tim's back, and I say this as a man who's been a card-carrying feminist since the mid-Pleistocene (the 1970s, when I was a teenager). There are indeed many groups of women - as described in the 'Dr_Caveman' piece Tim linked to, who make a really unbelievable fetish out of 'consensus', which term is used to mean everyone talking until there is absolute universal agreement or else participants fall over and die from excessive talking. I have no idea whether the author's description of events in the Dutch reality TV programm Expeditie Robinson was fair and accurate - let alone detailing a fluke outcome - but can believe that this _particular_ group of women might have happened to be the sort who insist on talking everything to death before doing anything, because I've seen that in action... er, inaction. Proponents of 'consensus decision-making', such as Starhawk (noted feminist neopagan) would protest that - as Starhawk puts it - 'consensus is not unanimity'[1], and I will certainly agree that it's not supposed to be, but sadly it very often is, along with a strong tendency towards groupthink.
The SPLC listed Roosh's site in it's list of misogyny sites. Here's what the SPLC wrote:
These's something rather sad about this entire 'manosphere' with its nobody-will-date-me-so-I-need-a-submissive-female fixation and hilarious namecalling jargon, e.g.: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:Manosphere_glossary Tim's other link was to yet another sob story in the infamously downmarket and soapy London gossip rag _The Daily Mail_. Really, Tim? But, Russell, I think you're dramatically overplaying the 'you're making women feel unwelcome' card. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_decision-making#Consensus_is_not_Grou... http://www.starhawk.org/activism/trainer-resources/consensus.html