Hi all, Following Andrew's exhortations at the last main meeting, I built 5.1 and installed it on my laptop. My 3 AMD GPU bugs are all fixed! Very impressive, since I haven't had any Bugzilla email about them for months. At least, I suppose they're fixed: the symptoms don't show any more. On checking logs I saw 1 Oops (from 3 boots), and it looked similar to the ones I used to see all the time. Confidently I installed 5.1 as my default desktop system. This was a disaster. The system came up to the login prompt very quickly, without changing from the initial terminal font to a smaller one as it usually did. There was a message from INIT that "SV" was respawning too quickly. When I supplied user name and password, I just got the login prompt again. I went back to 5.0 and checked what was in debug.log (which logs everything). And there was nothing at all! No hint that 5.1 had ever started - just a 7 minute gap between the last 5.0 shutdown and 5.0 starting. I'm at a bit of a loss as to how to report this - does anyone have a suggestion? Cheers ... Duncan. ======================= Have you seen this email before? Please mail me off-list if so. I originally sent this on 13th May but didn't see it come back. Cheers ... Duncan.