
Hello everyone, I've just connected to the nbn (FTTC) but can't get my debian computer onto the internet. I tried changing /etc/resolv.conf to: search gateway nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 but it failed. If I write into the file: domain gateway "gateway" appears red, and it fails. Before this nbn, the adsl modem was 10.0.0.138, which was in the resolv.conf but that didn't work, so it had to be deleted. The new modem has printed on its label: http://mymodem It's a Telstra Smart Modem Generation 2. I tried to bring up http://mymodem in the browsers firefox and w3m but both failed. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto I've searched for info to help, but haven't succeeded. There are some GUI tools on ubuntu I saw, but I don't have them and I want to get the configuration that works into the relevant files. So my question is, how can I get onto the internet with my debian computer with right configs? Thanks. ben -- bnis@fastmail.fm

Hello again everyone, Replying to myself ... I appear to have resolved the problem with an /etc/resolv.conf: domain gateway search gateway nameserver 192.168.0.1 I had another ethernet on the lan with that address, and removed it, and now it works. ben -- bnis@fastmail.fm On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, at 3:25 PM, Ben Nisenbaum via luv-main wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just connected to the nbn (FTTC) but can't get my debian computer onto the internet.
I tried changing /etc/resolv.conf to:
search gateway nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
but it failed. If I write into the file: domain gateway "gateway" appears red, and it fails.
Before this nbn, the adsl modem was 10.0.0.138, which was in the resolv.conf but that didn't work, so it had to be deleted. The new modem has printed on its label: http://mymodem It's a Telstra Smart Modem Generation 2. I tried to bring up http://mymodem in the browsers firefox and w3m but both failed.
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback
allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
I've searched for info to help, but haven't succeeded. There are some GUI tools on ubuntu I saw, but I don't have them and I want to get the configuration that works into the relevant files.
So my question is, how can I get onto the internet with my debian computer with right configs?
Thanks.
ben
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One (different) point to mention is that static IPs now cost $10 extra for most NBN providers. Tangerine is still offering static IPv4s https://www.tangerinetelecom.com.au/help/do-i-get-a-static-ip-address-with-m... but their support might not be as good as the other larger players. APNIC has run out of easy IPv4 addresses (see below) and strictly rationing the rest so IPv4's have to be brought on the open market from a broker (https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/transfer...) . This http://ipv4marketgroup.com/ipv4-pricing/ was suggesting $18 (US?) per IP. https://www.apnic.net/community/ipv4-exhaustion/ipv4-exhaustion-details/ Anyway for what it's worth I'm thinking of switching to IPv6 for my static IP needs when NBN gets connected to my place. Andrew On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 15:26, Ben Nisenbaum via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just connected to the nbn (FTTC) but can't get my debian computer onto the internet.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 14/9/19 5:19 pm, Andrew Worsley via luv-main wrote:
One (different) point to mention is that static IPs now cost $10 extra for most NBN providers. Tangerine is still offering static IPv4s https://www.tangerinetelecom.com.au/help/do-i-get-a-static-ip-address- with-my-nbn-connection
but their support might not be as good as the other larger players. As an agent for Exetel I can tell you the following (agent code V007 fwiw). It has *always* been a feature of every Exetel service that you get a static IP address with the exception of Mobile plans... but there is a static IP option with this as well. Going forward with the exhaustion of IPv4 address space; existing customers will retain static IP; new RESIDENTIAL customers /may/ be placed on carrier grade NAT. but they /may/ be able to still get a static IPv4 if required. Business grade services have a standard feature of having a IPv6 as static at this time for every service and this is one reason why an SMB might choose business plan over a residential one (along with other reasons). I am seeing that customers, including myself, are being allocated an IPv6 with a /60 network -- this includes 8x /64 networks, each IPv6 /64 network provides an extreme number of IPv6 addresses: 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 per /64 As of now, I have not setup anything to use IPv6 and I'm not sure when I will as IPv4 is with the blocks I have available are currently sufficient for my requirements (/29 in two locations). The ONLY reason for NEW residential customers will use carrier grade NAT is due to the IPv4 exhaustion; such exhaustion has far outlived expectations as many believed that everyone would be using IPv6 only by now and even for some time. Ordinary NAT since, in particular, DSL connections made a very significant difference to the timeline of moving to IPv6. Of course NAT was used with dial-up as well, but it was never such an issue back then in terms of IPv4 exhaustion. Heck, 1x /64 is in itself a very huge number of IP addresses, so many that with creative use, I expect you could allocate as many 1 to 1 addresses as you like and each could have short time usage; that is, if there is any consideration of being a moving target .... and other benefits of short term usage. The biggest problem with IPv6, as I see it, is that there are a huge number of bad IPv4 hosts out there spamming email inboxes; this problem will be cause services that block on IP addresses to be significantly harder to filter bad stuff out. I wish those using IPv4 badly (ie spammers and scammers), would completely lose access to the Internet and especially any IPv4 addresses that they consume. But someone can be doing good things on an IPv4 address for a long time and then do bad things at any time; blocking an IPv4 address like this is a lot easier than blocking single IPv6 addresses -- you would have to take out vert large blocks of IPv6 to block some end points, but they will likely have easy access to another large block to abuse people . https://www.kthx.at/subnetmask/ Cheers AndrewM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEAREIAB0WIQTJAoMHtC6YydLfjUOoFmvLt+/i+wUCXXz/tAAKCRCoFmvLt+/i +58UAQC6SjqzvIcqr9+FRUllsWFge01e85H7NZsPy8GMx3xIVQD/fFDGQbtdHHll 6VoxQmKus79BCKVuAc/mrS0+wJxf2uM= =vBD2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

On 14/9/19 2:55 pm, bnis@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just connected to the nbn (FTTC) but can't get my debian computer onto the internet.
I tried changing /etc/resolv.conf to:
search gateway nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
but it failed. If I write into the file: domain gateway "gateway" appears red, and it fails.
Before this nbn, the adsl modem was 10.0.0.138, which was in the resolv.conf but that didn't work, so it had to be deleted. The new modem has printed on its label: http://mymodem It's a Telstra Smart Modem Generation 2. I tried to bring up http://mymodem in the browsers firefox and w3m but both failed.
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback
allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
I do not see a ipv4 config listed is there one ? Mike

Hello all, My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto and Mike asked "I do not see a ipv4 config listed is there one ?" No, there is no ip4 in the configs. The Telstra Smart Modem though assigns an ipv4. If I ask google "what is my IP" I get: "2001:8333:5xx5:b00x:fexx:14ff:feac:9af3 your public IP address", IPV6. If I go to the modem itself pointing my browser to 192.168.0.1 I see both a WAN IPV4 and a WAN IPV6. If I use speedtest-cli, it gives me the IPV4. ben -- bnis@fastmail.fm On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, at 9:25 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
On 14/9/19 2:55 pm, bnis@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just connected to the nbn (FTTC) but can't get my debian computer onto the internet.
I tried changing /etc/resolv.conf to:
search gateway nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
but it failed. If I write into the file: domain gateway "gateway" appears red, and it fails.
Before this nbn, the adsl modem was 10.0.0.138, which was in the resolv.conf but that didn't work, so it had to be deleted. The new modem has printed on its label: http://mymodem It's a Telstra Smart Modem Generation 2. I tried to bring up http://mymodem in the browsers firefox and w3m but both failed.
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback
allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
I do not see a ipv4 config listed is there one ?
Mike

Hello all, Sorry I missed the dhcp line in the /etc/network/interfaces config which I sent earlier. The config is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet dhcp iface enp3s0 inet6 auto ben On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, at 7:45 AM, Ben Nisenbaum via luv-main wrote:
Hello all,
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
and Mike asked "I do not see a ipv4 config listed is there one ?"
No, there is no ip4 in the configs. The Telstra Smart Modem though assigns an ipv4.
If I ask google "what is my IP" I get: "2001:8333:5xx5:b00x:fexx:14ff:feac:9af3 your public IP address", IPV6. If I go to the modem itself pointing my browser to 192.168.0.1 I see both a WAN IPV4 and a WAN IPV6. If I use speedtest-cli, it gives me the IPV4.
ben
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On Sat, Sep 14, 2019, at 9:25 PM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
On 14/9/19 2:55 pm, bnis@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hello everyone,
I've just connected to the nbn (FTTC) but can't get my debian computer onto the internet.
I tried changing /etc/resolv.conf to:
search gateway nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4
but it failed. If I write into the file: domain gateway "gateway" appears red, and it fails.
Before this nbn, the adsl modem was 10.0.0.138, which was in the resolv.conf but that didn't work, so it had to be deleted. The new modem has printed on its label: http://mymodem It's a Telstra Smart Modem Generation 2. I tried to bring up http://mymodem in the browsers firefox and w3m but both failed.
My /etc/network/interfaces is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback
allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
I do not see a ipv4 config listed is there one ?
Mike
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On 15/9/19 8:28 am, bnis@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry I missed the dhcp line in the /etc/network/interfaces config which I sent earlier. The config is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet dhcp iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
ben
Ok that's the dhcp for ipv4, so it would seem to me that your issue was simply the dns. Mike

Yes, that makes sense. -- bnis@fastmail.fm On Sun, Sep 15, 2019, at 9:00 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote:
On 15/9/19 8:28 am, bnis@fastmail.fm wrote:
Hello all,
Sorry I missed the dhcp line in the /etc/network/interfaces config which I sent earlier. The config is:
auto lo iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug enp3s0 iface enp3s0 inet dhcp iface enp3s0 inet6 auto
ben
Ok that's the dhcp for ipv4, so it would seem to me that your issue was simply the dns.
Mike
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