
Hi all, copy for the list. I hope the list is working (see below). Regards Peter ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Ross <petrosssit@gmail.com> Date: Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Debian 7 - Update error To: James Harper <james@ejbdigital.com.au> Hi James, thanks. I did already. I used the GUI (and should never do this again;-) but realized it does not do the "apt-get update" behind the scenes. The GUI should do this by itself, I believe, because it is there to allow the inexperienced user to keep his system secure without needing to use the terminal. I mentioned it in a second mail. I do not know whether this 2nd e-mail arrived later, Google's mail sent this: Delivery incomplete There was a temporary problem delivering your message to luv-main@luv.asn.au. Gmail will retry for 43 more hours. You'll be notified if the delivery fails permanently. The response from the remote server was: 454 4.3.0 Try again later Final-Recipient: rfc822; luv-main@luv.asn.au Action: delayed Status: 4.3.0 Remote-MTA: dns; lists.luv.asn.au. (2a01:4f8:100:7463::9, the server for the domain luv.asn.au.) Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 454 4.3.0 Try again later Last-Attempt-Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 21:41:41 -0800 (PST) Will-Retry-Until: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:35:19 -0800 (PST) Regards Peter On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 8:42 PM, James Harper via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi all,
I try to update packages on a desktop machine running Debian 7.
I am getting this error:
E: Error http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main libx11-data all 2:1.5.0-1+deb7u3 404 Not Found
Do you know how to fix it?
"apt-get update" should do the job. Then retry your upgrade.
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Peter Ross via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> writes:
thanks. I did already. I used the GUI (and should never do this again;-) but realized it does not do the "apt-get update" behind the scenes.
The GUI should do this by itself, I believe, because it is there to allow the inexperienced user to keep his system secure without needing to use the terminal.
Yes, the GUI should do this. You might need to click a button or select a menu option first however to trigger it. Synaptic Package Manager, for example, has a big Reload button that looks like it should do the update operation. There are multiple GUIs out there, you haven't said which one you are using. You will find many people use the command line, so that will the only one they are familiar with. -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

Quoting Brian May (brian@linuxpenguins.xyz):
There are multiple GUIs out there, you haven't said which one you are using.
Indeed, since he could be using KPackageKit, or kpackage, or synaptic, or Apper, or update-manager, or aptitude (ncurses full-screen mode), or who knows what-all, and since every single deb-based system has apt-get and it always works the same, _and_ since I'm unlikely to install something non-standard just to be able to help Peter Ross, I suggested the tool that's always available and always does the job. -- Cheers, "If you ever drop your keys into a river of molten lava, Rick Moen let 'em go, because, man, they're gone." rick@linuxmafia.com -- Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey McQ! (4x80)

On 22/01/17 08:54, Brian May via luv-main wrote:
Peter Ross via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> writes:
thanks. I did already. I used the GUI (and should never do this again;-) but realized it does not do the "apt-get update" behind the scenes.
The GUI should do this by itself, I believe, because it is there to allow the inexperienced user to keep his system secure without needing to use the terminal.
Yes, the GUI should do this. You might need to click a button or select a menu option first however to trigger it. Synaptic Package Manager, for example, has a big Reload button that looks like it should do the update operation.
There are multiple GUIs out there, you haven't said which one you are using.
You will find many people use the command line, so that will the only one they are familiar with.
The Reload is indeed needed before you can do anything useful. Of course you may need to use the low level tools to load synaptic in the first place, like on a RaspPi. As an occasion Debian user I find that synaptic is useful to get an overall view of what is already loaded, and what might be available of interest.
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Allan Duncan
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Brian May
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Peter Ross
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Rick Moen