
Peter, you've made a number of posts recently about your perception of problems in Linux when compared to BSD. I think that it would be useful for the LUV membership if you could run a training session about BSD at the Beginner SIG. Maybe help people through installation on laptops that they bring in, maybe do an installation on desktop machines there (Lev can we do this?), and do VM images. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Hi Russell, yes but;-) I am a fairly primitive desktop/laptop user .. and I am not very interested in it either. I see it more as a high quality system for servers, especially in the area of automation. I managed FreeBSD systems since 2010 (a change of company management there was the end of it) and developed a bunch of scripts to deploy and maintain FreeBSD jails running all kind of services. In the beginning Phillip Huebner, (otherwise a Debian package maintainer), was involved as well. In the meantime, other people developed similar tools which are now packaged with FreeBSD. I did not use them (because my ones were doing what I want - and I knew them inside out, of course) So I should investigate what's there too. I would like to present this, but it's not aimed at laptop/desktop users. Regards Peter

On 2/08/2015 4:38 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
Peter, you've made a number of posts recently about your perception of problems in Linux when compared to BSD. I think that it would be useful for the LUV membership if you could run a training session about BSD at the Beginner SIG. Maybe help people through installation on laptops that they bring in, maybe do an installation on desktop machines there (Lev can we do this?), and do VM images.
I don't see why it should be limited to "Beginner SIG" ???? A.

Hi all,(reply-all this time, sorry Andrew) Coming back to this, a few thoughts: 1. A talk about how to install FreeBSD (or PC-BSD) on a laptop 2. Basic server setup 101(demonstrated on a VirtualBox VM perhaps) 3. A talk about "FreeBSD for Linux admins" 4. Architectural differences (base system, GEOM framework, security levels, jails, no procfs etc.) 5. A practical "near real-life' disaster recovery exercise: How to recreate a multi-server environment in a short period of time using configuration scripts, ZFS and jails(demo with a few VMs) 6. A talk about backup, mirroring, failover and other "server-relevant" exercises 7. FreeNAS - a FreeBSD for home 8. The 10% effort for 90% outcome principle(or: do as much as you need not all what you can imagine) 9. The frustration of the FreeBSD Gnome maintainers with the way the project became Linux and systemd centred (no, I skip that one;-) 10. A pet project stalled in my mind: A less server-centric "meshed" Internet of personal point to point communication using home servers, VMs and encryption(that would be more a brain-storming session, I would like to know what others think) 11. Something completely diffferent For non of the subjects I can claim "complerte coverage" and the level varies. Some things I have done many times, others I have an ideas how to do when needed, and some things I just find cool but I haven't come around to use it yet.. None of the talks are ready.. I need some preparation and the effort depends on the subject(s) chosen. I am happy to prepare something.. where to start? Regards Peter

Hi Peter I think whichever subject you feel comfortable to prepare a talk would be suitable - all subjects below are interesting ... to very interesting. So your comfort level probably should guide you on where to start. Of course I am sure others on this list may wish to contribute a talk on one of the subjects below. Cheers Daniel. On 09/08/15 14:40, Peter Ross wrote:
Hi all,(reply-all this time, sorry Andrew)
Coming back to this, a few thoughts:
1. A talk about how to install FreeBSD (or PC-BSD) on a laptop 2. Basic server setup 101(demonstrated on a VirtualBox VM perhaps) 3. A talk about "FreeBSD for Linux admins" 4. Architectural differences (base system, GEOM framework, security levels, jails, no procfs etc.) 5. A practical "near real-life' disaster recovery exercise: How to recreate a multi-server environment in a short period of time using configuration scripts, ZFS and jails(demo with a few VMs) 6. A talk about backup, mirroring, failover and other "server-relevant" exercises 7. FreeNAS - a FreeBSD for home 8. The 10% effort for 90% outcome principle(or: do as much as you need not all what you can imagine) 9. The frustration of the FreeBSD Gnome maintainers with the way the project became Linux and systemd centred (no, I skip that one;-) 10. A pet project stalled in my mind: A less server-centric "meshed" Internet of personal point to point communication using home servers, VMs and encryption(that would be more a brain-storming session, I would like to know what others think) 11. Something completely diffferent
For non of the subjects I can claim "complerte coverage" and the level varies. Some things I have done many times, others I have an ideas how to do when needed, and some things I just find cool but I haven't come around to use it yet..
None of the talks are ready.. I need some preparation and the effort depends on the subject(s) chosen.
I am happy to prepare something.. where to start?
Regards Peter _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main
participants (4)
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Andrew McGlashan
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Daniel Jitnah
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Peter Ross
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Russell Coker