Additional info, Gnome 3.30.2
Hello All, I forgot to mention the display manager, which is also where significant issues about the UI arise for me. The old Windows 3.x interface was limited, but functional. Gnome, and others, did add and improve, but the latest iterations have forgotten usability as much as the much reviled Windows 10 "tiles" interface. Some of my query does address issues with Gnome, and I am open to discussion of alternative window/display managers that might be more like what I am used to. Regards, Mark Trickett
Mark Trickett via luv-main wrote:
Hello All,
I forgot to mention the display manager, which is also where significant issues about the UI arise for me. The old Windows 3.x interface was limited, but functional. Gnome, and others, did add and improve, but the latest iterations have forgotten usability as much as the much reviled Windows 10 "tiles" interface. Some of my query does address issues with Gnome, and I am open to discussion of alternative window/display managers that might be more like what I am used to.
Perhaps the real solution in Linux and that other OS :-); is for the old and new GUI interfaces to be offered as alternatives at install time ? regards Rohan McLeod
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 04:22:21PM +1000, Mark Trickett wrote:
I forgot to mention the display manager, which is also where significant issues about the UI arise for me. The old Windows 3.x interface was limited, but functional. Gnome, and others, did add and improve, but the latest iterations have forgotten usability as much as the much reviled Windows 10 "tiles" interface. Some of my query does address issues with Gnome, and I am open to discussion of alternative window/display managers that might be more like what I am used to.
There are several alternatives to Gnome 3.x that offer a more "traditional" style desktop. xfce, lxde, and MATE, for example. These and others are commonly available as packages on most distros. xfce4, which is what I use, is a fairly bare-bones UI - similar to the old Gnome 2.x (i.e. before the current Gnome UI brain damage). MATE is similar, but with more frills. Some people like it a lot, I've never really bothered with it because I'd already switched fom gnome to xfce by the time it came out of beta. On debian, run 'apt-get install xfce4 lxde mate-desktop-environment' to install all of them. You can choose which one to use at login time, and change the default when you've decided which one you like most. and if you're still using gdm3, you might want to try lightdm instead. BTW, I have only xfce4 installed - but also have the mate-themes package installed because I use the TraditionalOK theme with xfce4. craig ps: apt-get purge --kill-it-with-fire --nuke-it-from-orbit gnome3 everything about gnome 3's UI sucks. especially the inscrutable icons in the title bar instead of text menus in a menu bar. I don't even use any gnome-specific apps any more because of that idiocy....evince was one of the last I used, but I don't even use that any more (i use qpdfview and okular instead) I've never used Windows 10, but it's hard to imagine that the UI could be any worse than Gnome 3's....it's like the gnome devs took the worst, dumbest aspects of windows and mac and then made them even dumber, after starting with a massive helping of "fuck you, you just don't understand our glorious vision". -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
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