Resizing the whole screen with Debian 10 and Wayland
Hello all, I am having a few problems with Debian 10 (Buster) 64 bit, the image, even during the boot sequence, more than fills the screen. I loose some of the text off the left edge of the screen, and more all round once up and running with Wayland, including the top bar. I also am having trouble resizing windows, currently Firefox is running maximised, but I want to reduce it a bit and I am having trouble getting any response. It is running on an AMD Ryzen 5 with 16 Gb of ram, and Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce GT 710 video card (NV106) driving a 24" LED Wintal 12V TV. While I can comprehend what Wayland is trying to do, and why, I am finding the discard of the older metaphors and way of working to be a serious "bug". They do have some excellent ideas, the top left corner hotspot is not intuitive, at least at first, and the new "menu" is not without merit, but such abandonment of prior ways of working is more than just irritating, it gets in the way of doing things. Regards, Mark Trickett
On Thursday, 16 July 2020 3:19:19 PM AEST Mark Trickett via luv-main wrote:
It is running on an AMD Ryzen 5 with 16 Gb of ram, and Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce GT 710 video card (NV106) driving a 24" LED Wintal 12V TV.
Firstly while it's not related to the issues you are having, I think you should consider buying an ATI video card. Every time I've used NVidia I've had problems related to driver support. Currently I'm supporting a Windows 10 system that's reliably running with a 4K video card that would cause regular system crashes in two different Linux systems. https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/8705.html Next what type of TV is this and how are you connecting to it? The above blog post has some information on how TVs don't work in a sane manner, possibly some of the issues in that post apply to you. If so you can probably get it working properly (with some effort) but probably can't get the best quality. https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-24-full-hd-curved-75hz-freesync-gaming-mo... Here's a 24" FullHD monitor for $160 plus postage. That should just work for the full screen display and not look fuzzy. Then you can have TV playing as well while you look at your computer during ad breaks. ;) https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-24-qhd-freesync-75hz-monitor-2560-x-1440/ Here's a 24" 2560*1440 monitor for $280. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
Hello Russell, On 7/17/20, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
On Thursday, 16 July 2020 3:19:19 PM AEST Mark Trickett via luv-main wrote:
It is running on an AMD Ryzen 5 with 16 Gb of ram, and Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce GT 710 video card (NV106) driving a 24" LED Wintal 12V TV.
Firstly while it's not related to the issues you are having, I think you should consider buying an ATI video card. Every time I've used NVidia I've had problems related to driver support. Currently I'm supporting a Windows 10 system that's reliably running with a 4K video card that would cause regular system crashes in two different Linux systems.
The card was a relatively cheap option to work with a new motherboard, the PC that you gave me failed, seemed like MB or CPU, income had improved, enough, so I bought a MSI mainboard and Ryzen CPU, the board had video connectors, but the CPU did not include the video. It was a way to have video, without having any recommendation. I may buy something else, but timing is a bit of a pain at the moment with not supposed to travel. To get it as I currently want, I just need to be able to tell the video system to not use a uniform margin all round. The colour and crispness is not an issue, although I would not rely on the colour for photography, that is where I would look at the monitors you suggest. It may be that I need to redo the initial probe and detection for video configuration. As to TV at home, I have no free to air land based signal, I have to use a VAST box (Viewer Assisted Satellite Television), that is currently out of service. It is a UEC box, actually a small Linux box, but without external access, it has an ethernet port, but not enabled. If it continues to not work and I get another, I would like to bring it to a LUV workshop for the curious.
https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/8705.html
Next what type of TV is this and how are you connecting to it? The above blog post has some information on how TVs don't work in a sane manner, possibly some of the issues in that post apply to you. If so you can probably get it working properly (with some effort) but probably can't get the best quality.
it is a 12V Wintal 24" LED TV, I bought from Radio Parts, I intend to use it more with a Raspberry Pi to have a 12V system for mobile and remote computing. When I go to various events demonstrating handspinning, I would like to have computing facility, and the capacity to play a video of what I do when I have to go to the toilet or get lunch.
https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-24-full-hd-curved-75hz-freesync-gaming-mo...
Here's a 24" FullHD monitor for $160 plus postage. That should just work for the full screen display and not look fuzzy. Then you can have TV playing as well while you look at your computer during ad breaks. ;)
https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/kogan-24-qhd-freesync-75hz-monitor-2560-x-1440/
Here's a 24" 2560*1440 monitor for $280.
I am also running into another issue, a Debian bug with scanning. I have been reading up, but the behaviour is puzzling. SimpleScan works, but scanimage and the other command linme tools do not see the scanner, but it is there when I do lsusb. The scanner is a Canon LIDE 210, and it works well on the out of date Debian on the Acer TravelMate 3230. I appear to have appropriate permissions and such, but some detail is still out of place. I may try adding myself to the scanner group, but that should not be necessary. I want to use scanimage as I can increment an index number for each page the way I want, which is not the way SimpleScan does. Regards, Mark Trickett
Hi Mark. I had a similar problem with a TV and a raspberry pi model 4B. Turned out the answer in my case was the TV was doing the trim off the edges trick to make broadcast content look a bit clearer and less fuzzy around the edges. Turned off the function on the TV and all the problems went away. The pi was happily setting itself to the reported 1920x1080 resolution, but the TV wasn't displaying the full reported resolution. It may not be your case, but it's another thing worth checking. Regards, Morrie. -----Original Message----- From: luv-main [mailto:luv-main-bounces@luv.asn.au] On Behalf Of Mark Trickett via luv-main Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2020 3:19 PM To: Luv Main Subject: Resizing the whole screen with Debian 10 and Wayland Hello all, I am having a few problems with Debian 10 (Buster) 64 bit, the image, even during the boot sequence, more than fills the screen. I loose some of the text off the left edge of the screen, and more all round once up and running with Wayland, including the top bar. I also am having trouble resizing windows, currently Firefox is running maximised, but I want to reduce it a bit and I am having trouble getting any response. It is running on an AMD Ryzen 5 with 16 Gb of ram, and Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce GT 710 video card (NV106) driving a 24" LED Wintal 12V TV. While I can comprehend what Wayland is trying to do, and why, I am finding the discard of the older metaphors and way of working to be a serious "bug". They do have some excellent ideas, the top left corner hotspot is not intuitive, at least at first, and the new "menu" is not without merit, but such abandonment of prior ways of working is more than just irritating, it gets in the way of doing things. Regards, Mark Trickett _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main
On 7/18/20, Morrie Wyatt via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi Mark.
I had a similar problem with a TV and a raspberry pi model 4B.
Turned out the answer in my case was the TV was doing the trim off the edges trick to make broadcast content look a bit clearer and less fuzzy around the edges.
Turned off the function on the TV and all the problems went away.
The pi was happily setting itself to the reported 1920x1080 resolution, but the TV wasn't displaying the full reported resolution.
It may not be your case, but it's another thing worth checking.
That has worked. I do not remember doing that previously when I had less of an issue. It may have been reset at some point since then.
Regards, Morrie.
Regards, Mark Trickett
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