
Some years ago I ran a hands-on training session on BTRFS and ZFS using VMs. Would there be interest if I ran that again online with BBB for video- conferencing? Stripes, this may interest you as it will give you the chance to try stuff out on ZFS with no risk to your data. A large part of the exercise is intentionally doing dangerous things and observing how ZFS recovers. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

Russell Coker via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> writes:
Some years ago I ran a hands-on training session on BTRFS and ZFS using VMs. Would there be interest if I ran that again online with BBB for video- conferencing?
Stripes, this may interest you as it will give you the chance to try stuff out on ZFS with no risk to your data. A large part of the exercise is intentionally doing dangerous things and observing how ZFS recovers.
I would be interested in learning about ZFS. Not sure about BTRFS, word was from LCA2020 that development has basically stalled, and it is in maintenance only. Unless anything has changed since then. Plus word is that ZFS has always been technically superior. -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

Brian May via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Not sure about BTRFS, word was from LCA2020 that development has basically stalled, ...
Interestingly, we also saw the following development recently ... https://fedoramagazine.org/btrfs-coming-to-fedora-33/ Talking about *Btrfs will replace ext4 as the default filesystem in Fedora 33 ...* Seems like BTRFS is getting quite an endorsement from a flagship Linux distro? --- Wen On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:49 AM Brian May via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Russell Coker via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> writes:
Some years ago I ran a hands-on training session on BTRFS and ZFS using VMs. Would there be interest if I ran that again online with BBB for video- conferencing?
Stripes, this may interest you as it will give you the chance to try stuff out on ZFS with no risk to your data. A large part of the exercise is intentionally doing dangerous things and observing how ZFS recovers.
I would be interested in learning about ZFS.
Not sure about BTRFS, word was from LCA2020 that development has basically stalled, and it is in maintenance only. Unless anything has changed since then. Plus word is that ZFS has always been technically superior. -- Brian May <brian@linuxpenguins.xyz> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main

On Wednesday, 16 September 2020 9:53:15 AM AEST Wen Lin via luv-main wrote:
Brian May via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Not sure about BTRFS, word was from LCA2020 that development has basically stalled, ...
Interestingly, we also saw the following development recently ... https://fedoramagazine.org/btrfs-coming-to-fedora-33/
Talking about *Btrfs will replace ext4 as the default filesystem in Fedora 33 ...* Seems like BTRFS is getting quite an endorsement from a flagship Linux distro?
https://marc.info/?l=linux-btrfs The BTRFS mailing list is averaging around 1000 messages per month. That doesn't look like a dead project. Was the person saying it had stalled a developer from a competing filesystem project? Most drive failure issues I've seen in recent years are drives that return bad data and claim it to be good. To avoid data loss in the face of such problems you have to use BTRFS, ZFS, NetApp, or maybe one of the cluster filesystems. Cluster filesystems are difficult to setup and need expensive hardware. NetApp is expensive, GraysOnline had a bunch of them last time I checked and they were still expensive second hand. ZFS might be considered to have license issues (I think it's OK but opinion varies) and that limits it's use. BTRFS is needed. https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID56 BTRFS RAID5/6 still isn't ready for production. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
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