http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/st34 This is a really good deal for hosting. Ping times aren't good enough for a Minecraft server with Australian users but are good enough for ssh. It's much more powerful than most people need for a personal server, but you can get extra IPs and run Xen or KVM. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
Hi, I didn't realise this before, but all the Hetzner dedicated servers and vServer packages include a full IPv6 /64 subnet. Some other hosting companies provide something smaller, e.g. Digital Ocean only allows 16 IPv6 addresses per VM (presumably out of a /64 shared with many other VMs). Thanks, John On 1 October 2014 20:32, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produkte_rootserver/st34
This is a really good deal for hosting. Ping times aren't good enough for a Minecraft server with Australian users but are good enough for ssh. It's much more powerful than most people need for a personal server, but you can get extra IPs and run Xen or KVM.
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2014, John Mann <john.mann@monash.edu> wrote:
I didn't realise this before, but all the Hetzner dedicated servers and vServer packages include a full IPv6 /64 subnet.
ip -6 addr add $PREFIX::1/64 dev xenbr0 ip route add default via fe80::1 dev xenbr0 You put something like the above in /etc/network/interfaces or whatever to configure addresses on Hetzner. Note that something different will be needed on other ISPs.
Some other hosting companies provide something smaller, e.g. Digital Ocean only allows 16 IPv6 addresses per VM (presumably out of a /64 shared with many other VMs).
That would be profiteering, allocate only a few and charge extra for more addresses. An ISP that had a single /64 shared with all it's customers could easily allocate a /96 to every customer and never run out - no ISP is likely to get 2^32 customers. http://venturebeat.com/2013/12/30/iaas-provider-digitalocean-finds-itself- back-in-security-trouble/ But I think Digital Ocean has bigger issues than a lack of IPv6 addresses. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
Hi, On 1 October 2014 23:32, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
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Some other hosting companies provide something smaller, e.g. Digital Ocean only allows 16 IPv6 addresses per VM (presumably out of a /64 shared with many other VMs).
That would be profiteering, allocate only a few and charge extra for more addresses.
I think it is more "IPv4-thinking" rather than profiteering. They only allow 16 IPv6 addresses per VM - that's all they think anyone could need! There is no mechanism to obtain more. IPv6 address management should be about abundance, flexibility and ease of configuration, rather than IPv4's scarcity and manual micro-management.
An ISP that had a single /64 shared with all it's customers could easily allocate a /96 to every customer and never run out - no ISP is likely to get 2^32 customers.
A cloud provider could get a IPv6 /32 for ~$1k/year (or $0 depending upon RIR and IPv4 address holdings) and give a /64 to 2^32 customers at a cost of ~$0.00000023/year each or a /56 to 2^24 customers at a cost of ~$0.00006/year each. More customers than that? - get another /32 ... there's 2^29 of them available, and the more you get the cheaper they are!
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Thanks, John
On 1 October 2014 21:41, John Mann <john.mann@monash.edu> wrote:
Hi,
I didn't realise this before, but all the Hetzner dedicated servers and vServer packages include a full IPv6 /64 subnet.
Some other hosting companies provide something smaller, e.g. Digital Ocean only allows 16 IPv6 addresses per VM (presumably out of a /64 shared with many other VMs).
Evorack provide a /64 as well, and are super cheap for small VPS servers. http://www.evorack.com/unmanaged-xen-vps.php
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Toby Corkindale <toby@dryft.net> wrote:
On 1 October 2014 21:41, John Mann <john.mann@monash.edu> wrote:
Hi,
I didn't realise this before, but all the Hetzner dedicated servers and vServer packages include a full IPv6 /64 subnet.
Some other hosting companies provide something smaller, e.g. Digital Ocean only allows 16 IPv6 addresses per VM (presumably out of a /64 shared with many other VMs).
Evorack provide a /64 as well, and are super cheap for small VPS servers. http://www.evorack.com/unmanaged-xen-vps.php
https://www.linode.com/pricing Linode has much better pricing. But they only offer 1 IPv6 address and say they offer more for no charge. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
On 15 October 2014 21:50, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Toby Corkindale <toby@dryft.net> wrote:
On 1 October 2014 21:41, John Mann <john.mann@monash.edu> wrote:
Hi,
I didn't realise this before, but all the Hetzner dedicated servers and vServer packages include a full IPv6 /64 subnet.
Some other hosting companies provide something smaller, e.g. Digital Ocean only allows 16 IPv6 addresses per VM (presumably out of a /64 shared with many other VMs).
Evorack provide a /64 as well, and are super cheap for small VPS servers. http://www.evorack.com/unmanaged-xen-vps.php
https://www.linode.com/pricing
Linode has much better pricing.
They're cheaper if you want a lot of RAM or transfer, but Evorack is cheaper for storage, or cheaper for, well, very low-end plans. (About $6/month gets you a quite workable VPS) I originally ended up on Evorack because I wanted a UK-based host at the time; they've been OK but yeah, there's probably better or cheaper out there. T
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