Hi to all, Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection. Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises. Thanks Joanna -- Stripes Theotoky
Any possibility of asking a neighbor with a fixed unlimited connection to share their connection via wifi for some contribution to their monthly fee ? ________________________________ From: luv-main <luv-main-bounces@luv.asn.au> on behalf of stripes theotoky via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:21 PM To: mlug-au@googlegroups.com <mlug-au@googlegroups.com>; LUV mailing list <luv-main@luv.asn.au> Subject: Advice on broadband options Hi to all, Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection. Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises. Thanks Joanna -- Stripes Theotoky
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 10:29, Andrew Voumard via luv-main < luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Any possibility of asking a neighbor with a fixed unlimited connection to share their connection via wifi for some contribution to their monthly fee ?
------------------------------ *From:* luv-main <luv-main-bounces@luv.asn.au> on behalf of stripes theotoky via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> *Sent:* Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:21 PM *To:* mlug-au@googlegroups.com <mlug-au@googlegroups.com>; LUV mailing list <luv-main@luv.asn.au> *Subject:* Advice on broadband options
Hi to all,
Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection.
Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises.
Thanks Joanna
I have done this already. No luck there: one neighbour using her phone as hotspot, the other is an old lady no internet. Any idea how much bandwidth these zoom sessions will consume? Also, any recommendations for quick/immediate unlimited broadband in case I manage to persuade the landlord? Thanks J.
-- Stripes Theotoky
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Zoom Bandwidth Usage detailed here (1/2 way down the page) https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362023-System-Requirements-for-... [https://theme.zdassets.com/theme_assets/141844/54b03f5a6fcedbfa6621c751d9bed891e78c7d3c.png]<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362023-System-Requirements-for-PC-Mac-and-Linux> System Requirements for PC, Mac, and Linux – Zoom Help Center<https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362023-System-Requirements-for-PC-Mac-and-Linux> Notes: Dual and single core laptops have a reduced frame rate when screen sharing (around 5 frames per second). For optimum screen sharing performance on laptops we recommend a quad core processor or higher. support.zoom.us No experience with NBN unlimited plans, but you could have a look here: https://www.whistleout.com.au/Broadband/Australia/Victoria NBN Victoria | Compare NBN Plans In My Area | WhistleOut<https://www.whistleout.com.au/Broadband/Australia/Victoria> The NBN is available in Victoria. The fastest NBN speeds in Victoria are up to 100 Mbps, on plans starting from $69.95/mth. Prices for basic NBN plans start from $29.99/mth. www.whistleout.com.au Personally I have a cheap Telstra XS plan - $15/month for 5GB fast 4G that shapes down to 1.5Mbps unlimited (but it does say that rate may drop in busy times, though I haven't experienced it myself). See: https://www.telstra.com.au/help/critical-information-summaries/personal/mobi... Mobile Plans - Telstra<https://www.telstra.com.au/help/critical-information-summaries/personal/mobile-broadband/mobile-broadband-plans/telstra-data-plans> Once you exceed your included data allowance, your speed will be capped at 1.5Mbps, and slowed further in busy periods. This means it is not suitable for HD video or high speed applications and means that some webpages, videos, social media content and files may take longer to load, but you can still stream video in standard definition, listen to music, browse the web and access social media ... www.telstra.com.au ________________________________ From: stripes theotoky <stripes.theotoky@googlemail.com> Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:39 PM To: Andrew Voumard <andrewv@melbpc.org.au>; LUV mailing list <luv-main@luv.asn.au> Subject: Re: Advice on broadband options On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 10:29, Andrew Voumard via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au<mailto:luv-main@luv.asn.au>> wrote: Any possibility of asking a neighbor with a fixed unlimited connection to share their connection via wifi for some contribution to their monthly fee ? ________________________________ From: luv-main <luv-main-bounces@luv.asn.au<mailto:luv-main-bounces@luv.asn.au>> on behalf of stripes theotoky via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au<mailto:luv-main@luv.asn.au>> Sent: Sunday, 29 March 2020 9:21 PM To: mlug-au@googlegroups.com<mailto:mlug-au@googlegroups.com> <mlug-au@googlegroups.com<mailto:mlug-au@googlegroups.com>>; LUV mailing list <luv-main@luv.asn.au<mailto:luv-main@luv.asn.au>> Subject: Advice on broadband options Hi to all, Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection. Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises. Thanks Joanna I have done this already. No luck there: one neighbour using her phone as hotspot, the other is an old lady no internet. Any idea how much bandwidth these zoom sessions will consume? Also, any recommendations for quick/immediate unlimited broadband in case I manage to persuade the landlord? Thanks J. -- Stripes Theotoky _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au<mailto:luv-main@luv.asn.au> https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main -- Stripes Theotoky -37 .713869 145.050562 [http://theotoky.v-serv.go-medical.de/SQ-ALL.jpg]
Done correctly the cabling can be very tidy, on top of this a landlord is not allowed to limit the install of telecommunication services. Mobile broad band is not a good solution for teleconferencing partially for the person who is managing the it. I suggest finding our from Aussie broadband what NBN service you can get and requesting it be installed. The landlord can not stop it. Aussie does not have a contract so you can have a service for 1 month with no setup cost. Mike On 29/3/20 8:51 pm, stripes theotoky wrote:
Hi to all,
Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection.
Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises.
Thanks Joanna
-- Stripes Theotoky
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Hi Joanna, On 29/3/20 9:21 pm, stripes theotoky via luv-main wrote:
Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection.
Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises.
I would be surprised if the landlord can reasonably object, but I don't have a definitive answer on that. Are you the student or the lecturer? If bandwidth is what you need, then perhaps, just perhaps a 100/40 NBN connection (if it is available to you), might not be enough. You first need to check with NBN Co and see what technology is available for your location; that will inform you at least a little further. https://www.nbnco.com.au/learn/rollout-map Let us know what you find and then let us speak again.... I've recently gotten two mobiles with unlimited data on different networks for a number of reasons; both have ample data. In the past I have actively advised against Telstra for a number of reasons, but having a Telstra mobile now, this advise is even stronger. The mobile network is far less reliable than I have ever experienced with Optus network services, ever. If I need to make a call, the Telstra is much more likely a miss whilst Optus never misses; it's chalk and cheese. My own experience is clearly that Telstra does NOT have the best network, at least in terms of ordinary telephone calls that should be the easiest to achieve! Kind Regards -- Andrew McGlashan IT Support & Broadband Solutions
Hi Joanna If you live in Macleod, and you aren't in the half that has the NBN, then you should go for the cable option. If your landlord quibbles point out that this is your working from home job/income that requires the connection, and thus possibly affects your ability to pay your rent. That might focus their attention just a little... At the moment on cable in Macleod I'm getting 105 Mbps download and 3.9 Mbps upload. I'm not looking forward to our impending switch to the NBN :( If I'm on the university VPN that drops to 13/3.92. Although I'm not sure you'll be required to use your university VPN to deliver lectures via Zoom... Martin On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 10:22, stripes theotoky via luv-main < luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi to all,
Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection.
Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises.
Thanks Joanna
-- Stripes Theotoky
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 21:56, Martin Paulo <martin.paulo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Joanna
If you live in Macleod, and you aren't in the half that has the NBN, then you should go for the cable option. If your landlord quibbles point out that this is your working from home job/income that requires the connection, and thus possibly affects your ability to pay your rent. That might focus their attention just a little...
Landlord is OK now. So searching for ADSL/cable. Hope to find something so that it can be usable pretty soon.
At the moment on cable in Macleod I'm getting 105 Mbps download and 3.9 Mbps upload. I'm not looking forward to our impending switch to the NBN :( If I'm on the university VPN that drops to 13/3.92. Although I'm not sure you'll be required to use your university VPN to deliver lectures via Zoom...
Your cable speeds look good. Mine on the mobile broadband are a woeful 0.61 Mbps download and 0.43 Mbps upload. Pretty useless for Zoom. The university's VPN uses Cisco at present. Sometimes I can connect, it depends on how many other people are connecting. Thanks Martin, and take care. J.
Martin
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 10:22, stripes theotoky via luv-main < luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi to all,
Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection.
Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises.
Thanks Joanna
-- Stripes Theotoky
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Update for all below. On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 at 10:21, stripes theotoky < stripes.theotoky@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hi to all,
Now my university is closed for the duration of the health crisis, I have to give at least 16 hours of tutorials / lectures a week via zoom. The audience varies between 20 and 80 students. As my only internet connections are: 1. is a dongle (with Vodafone) that has 3GB , and 2. my mobile phone with 60GB (also with Vodafone) I am urgently in need of a much better connection.
Any advice on what and with whom? I am in rented accommodation in Macleod, pretty much a mobile blackspot, and the landlord doesn't like the idea of cable being brought to the premises.
Thanks Joanna
In the end, I got 'exempt status' and deliver all my online teaching from the office. Thanks to all for their help. -- Stripes Theotoky -37 .713869 145.050562
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