Android 4.4 external SD card

I've recently updated my Galaxy Note 2 to Android 4.4 and now I can't write to my external SD card. Apparently Google has changed things so that each app can only write to it's own directory. The online write-ups of this are mostly written by stupid people who say things like "this stops other applications from writing to your Internet banking files" when really what you want is to protect against READING internet banking files (something Android 4.4 does nothing about). Access to the primary "external" storage area (IE a directory tree on the device for downloaded files etc) is not restricted so Android 4.4 doesn't even protect any application data from writing in a useful manner (some apps just change to "primary external storage" instead). I've been using Olive Tree FTP server to upload TV shows to watch on my phone but it now can't write to the SD card. I tried creating a directory named /storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.theolivetree.ftpserver (the directory that should be permitted by Android 4.4) but that fails. How do I go about making this work in the designed manner? Is there some special directory I should ask my FTP server to create? Is there another FTP server I can use? Failing that has anyone got KDE's support for media devices to work with an Android 4.4 device connected via USB? -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
I've recently updated my Galaxy Note 2 to Android 4.4 and now I can't write to my external SD card.
I've been using Olive Tree FTP server to upload TV shows to watch on my phone but it now can't write to the SD card.
Considered using adb to put your files on there? I've always done it that way, and it seems to me the much easier solution. / Brett

On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:10:16 Brett Pemberton wrote:
I've been using Olive Tree FTP server to upload TV shows to watch on my phone but it now can't write to the SD card.
Considered using adb to put your files on there? I've always done it that way, and it seems to me the much easier solution.
Thanks for that suggestion. I've tried adb and it works, it's annoying but it does the job. I'd rather have FTP working so I can transfer files wirelessly, that means the Android device doesn't need to be attached to my computer and I don't need an extra cable. I was also disappointed to note that the speed reported by adb for file transfers is between 3.5 and 4.5MB/s which isn't much faster than the 2.5-3.5MB/s I get through wireless transfers, I guess that my SD card isn't capable of fast transfers. Android is an example of how FOSS software isn't supposed to be. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On 13/08/2014 12:02 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:10:16 Brett Pemberton wrote:
I've been using Olive Tree FTP server to upload TV shows to watch on my phone but it now can't write to the SD card.
Considered using adb to put your files on there? I've always done it that way, and it seems to me the much easier solution.
Thanks for that suggestion. I've tried adb and it works, it's annoying but it does the job.
I'd rather have FTP working so I can transfer files wirelessly, that means the Android device doesn't need to be attached to my computer and I don't need an extra cable. I was also disappointed to note that the speed reported by adb for file transfers is between 3.5 and 4.5MB/s which isn't much faster than the 2.5-3.5MB/s I get through wireless transfers, I guess that my SD card isn't capable of fast transfers.
Android is an example of how FOSS software isn't supposed to be.
What about a portable WiFi drive, then you can have 500GB or more, on tap? The only problem with a portable drive is that it /may/ take away normal WiFi access in favour of the drive and excluding the Internet (or even local network). Cheers A.

Brett Pemberton <brett.pemberton@gmail.com> writes:
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
I've recently updated my Galaxy Note 2 to Android 4.4 and now I can't write to my external SD card.
I've been using Olive Tree FTP server to upload TV shows to watch on my phone but it now can't write to the SD card.
Considered using adb to put your files on there? I've always done it that way, and it seems to me the much easier solution.
Can't you just put sshd and rsync on the phone, then rsync stuff to it?

On 12 August 2014 16:03, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
Failing that has anyone got KDE's support for media devices to work with an Android 4.4 device connected via USB?
I have no experience with KDE and Android MTP, but Gnome's is atrocious. Trying to copy a file bigger than about 100MB always for me ends in write errors (copying to HTC One or Nexus 7) I now exclusively use AirDroid to copy files over my wifi to my devices Sean

On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:29:13 Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
On 12/08/14 16:03, Russell Coker wrote:
Failing that has anyone got KDE's support for media devices to work with an Android 4.4 device connected via USB?
Or root your phone, install busybox (or Debian) and run an ssh/sftp server? ;)
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-on-l... http://nexus4root.com/ How reliable is the process of rooting a phone using instructions such as the above? Can I expect it to work without wiping the phone data? The Nexus 4 doesn't have the external SD card issue, but it would still be nice to have it rooted if possible. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 10:29:13 Paul Dwerryhouse wrote:
On 12/08/14 16:03, Russell Coker wrote:
Failing that has anyone got KDE's support for media devices to work with an Android 4.4 device connected via USB?
Or root your phone, install busybox (or Debian) and run an ssh/sftp server? ;)
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-note-2-root/how-to-root-galaxy-note-2-on-l...
How reliable is the process of rooting a phone using instructions such as the above? Can I expect it to work without wiping the phone data?
I cant speak for the nexus4root but have used heimdall to root and/or install customs Roms on 3 GS3's a galaxy note 10.1 and a galaxy TAB 2 all with no problems to date YMMV Normal rules apply fully charge battery be patient if it takes some time and as always there is a small risk of bricking if power goes out etc but that can be mitigated a bit by using a laptop with a fully charged battery as well to do the job
The Nexus 4 doesn't have the external SD card issue, but it would still be nice to have it rooted if possible.
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On 14/08/2014 7:19 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
How reliable is the process of rooting a phone using instructions such as the above? Can I expect it to work without wiping the phone data?
When I get the time, I would like to ditch Samsung /lack of support/ for my i9300 and i9505 devices that are 100% stock and only getting 4.3 at this stage -- the devices are fully capable of running the latest Android version. One of my justifications for going stock Samsung was to get updates that were not carrier branded, nor carrier delayed. And given all the horror of today's Android App permissions, I might even go to the dark side and choose an iPhone next. Suffice to say, I'm not at all happy with the way things are going Android now. Cheers A.

Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
When I get the time, I would like to ditch Samsung /lack of support/ for my i9300 and i9505 devices that are 100% stock and only getting 4.3 at this stage -- the devices are fully capable of running the latest Android version.
My i9505 device suffers from the same problem, compounded by some very unwelcome bugs. It's running Samsung's Android 4.3 firmware at present.
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