12 Apr
2016
12 Apr
'16
11:46 a.m.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px61nvme
Hetzner offers servers with 64G of ECC RAM and 2*512G NVMe storage devices for
E59 per month. They have an IPv6 /64 and a single IPv4 address (you can rent
another 2 for a few Euro per month).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express
NVMe is SSD storage directly connected to PCIe to avoid the latency of SATA.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px61
The same but with 2*4TB SATA disks instead.
https://www.linode.com/pricing
For cheaper hosting Linode is offering a VM with 1G of RAM and 24G of storage
for $US10 per month.
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29 May
29 May
12:51 a.m.
On 12/04/16 21:46, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px61nvme
Hetzner offers servers with 64G of ECC RAM and 2*512G NVMe storage devices for
E59 per month. They have an IPv6 /64 and a single IPv4 address (you can rent
another 2 for a few Euro per month).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express
NVMe is SSD storage directly connected to PCIe to avoid the latency of SATA.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/px61
The same but with 2*4TB SATA disks instead.
https://www.linode.com/pricing
For cheaper hosting Linode is offering a VM with 1G of RAM and 24G of storage
for $US10 per month.
Digital Ocean offers VM for $5 per month with 20G storage.
1:52 a.m.
On Sun, 29 May 2016 10:51:33 AM David Zuccaro via luv-main wrote:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6983097
Digital Ocean did a good job of burying the above from Google searches.
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2013/Aug/57
Also there's the above issue. These are things in the past, but AFAIK Linode
hasn't had those problems.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_vserver/cx10
For cheap virtual servers Hetzner has one for E3.90 per month, that is less
than the Digital Ocean offering and it has more RAM.
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For cheaper
hosting Linode is offering a VM with 1G of RAM and 24G of
storage for $US10 per month.
Digital Ocean offers VM for $5 per month with 20G storage. 
3:17 a.m.
Russell Coker via luv-main <luv-main(a)luv.asn.au> writes:
Also there's the above issue. These are things in
the past, but AFAIK Linode
hasn't had those problems.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_vserver/cx10
For cheap virtual servers Hetzner has one for E3.90 per month, that is less
than the Digital Ocean offering and it has more RAM.
Hetzner is not perfect either. e.g. every now and again my VM reboots
for no apparent reason, and I see the following in my log files. Sure
(probably?) not a security issue, but don't think this should be
happening... I didn't push the virtual power key.
May 27 17:05:36 mirror systemd-logind[597]: Power key pressed.
May 27 17:05:36 mirror systemd-logind[597]: Powering Off...
May 27 17:05:36 mirror systemd-logind[597]: System is powering down.
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12:29 p.m.
On Sun, 29 May 2016 01:17:29 PM Brian May via luv-main wrote:
I've never used Hetzner VMs. I've been using Hetzner servers for years
without any serious issues.
For cheap
virtual servers Hetzner has one for E3.90 per month, that is
less than the Digital Ocean offering and it has more RAM.
Hetzner is not perfect either. e.g. every now and again my VM reboots
for no apparent reason, and I see the following in my log files. Sure
(probably?) not a security issue, but don't think this should be
happening... I didn't push the virtual power key.
May 27 17:05:36 mirror systemd-logind[597]: Power key pressed.
May 27 17:05:36 mirror systemd-logind[597]: Powering Off...
May 27 17:05:36 mirror systemd-logind[597]: System is powering down.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
It is annoying that this happens. The above URL tells you how to change the
systemd reaction to the power key press. What happens if you just set it to
"ignore"?
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30 May
30 May
9:08 a.m.
Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> writes:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
It is annoying that this happens. The above URL tells you how to change the
systemd reaction to the power key press. What happens if you just set it to
"ignore"?
Seems like this power button event might be a deliberate attempt to
reset my VM. I can't see how they could accidently generate a power
button event. If so, ignoring the event might cause them to forcibly
shutdown the VM...
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2:40 p.m.
On Mon, 30 May 2016, Brian May wrote:
Russell Coker <russell(a)coker.com.au> writes:
Erm, it might just be that they want to reboot the host, don't have live
migration, and don't have very good change control/notification procedures
in place. What did the contract say?
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Tim Connors
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Power_management
It is annoying that this happens. The above URL tells you how to change the
systemd reaction to the power key press. What happens if you just set it to
"ignore"?
Seems like this power button event might be a deliberate attempt to
reset my VM. I can't see how they could accidently generate a power
button event. If so, ignoring the event might cause them to forcibly
shutdown the VM...
10:29 p.m.
Tim Connors <tim.w.connors(a)gmail.com> writes:
Erm, it might just be that they want to reboot the host, don't have live
migration, and don't have very good change control/notification procedures
in place. What did the contract say?
I don't see anything like this in the contract...
However could be a good reason for not ignoring the event.
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Brian May <brian(a)linuxpenguins.xyz>
https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/
It is annoying that this happens. The above URL tells
you how to change the
systemd reaction to the power key press. What happens if you just set it to
"ignore"?
Seems like this power button event might be a deliberate attempt to
reset my VM. I can't see how they could accidently generate a power
button event. If so, ignoring the event might cause them to forcibly
shutdown the VM...
31 May
31 May
3:52 a.m.
On Mon, 30 May 2016 06:48:34 PM David Zuccaro via luv-main wrote:
I'm not much of an expert on security, I've
seen it stated that so
system can ever be 100% secure. I just do what I can and use lots of
different passwords.
I've done quite a bit of work on Linux Security. While security of hosting
companies isn't an area I'm an expert in it is something I know a bit about.
Firstly companies with a bad history of security won't improve overnight. The
problem with not wiping data was a wake-up call for DO but that won't change
things in the short term.
Next there needs to be an incentive for doing the right thing. If the C*O
level of companies notice that security problems don't hurt them then they
have no reason to invest in doing it right. Mess up security and have trouble
making sales for 10 years is a good incentive for doing the right thing.
On Mon, 30 May 2016 07:08:45 PM Brian May via luv-main wrote:
Seems like this power button event might be a
deliberate attempt to
reset my VM. I can't see how they could accidently generate a power
button event. If so, ignoring the event might cause them to forcibly
shutdown the VM...
That's a plausible theory. Maybe you should file a support ticket and ask why
they are doing it.
For other services Hetzner gives advance notice of planned outages and reports
on unplanned outages.
On Tue, 31 May 2016 12:40:09 AM Tim Connors via luv-main wrote:
Erm, it might just be that they want to reboot the
host, don't have live
migration, and don't have very good change control/notification procedures
in place. What did the contract say?
Hetzner has excellent notification procedures for their dedicated servers. It
could be that they have less for VMs and your suggestion that Brian checks his
contract is a good one.
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30 May
30 May
8:48 a.m.
On 29/05/16 11:52, Russell Coker wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2016 10:51:33 AM David Zuccaro via
luv-main wrote:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6983097
Digital Ocean did a good job of burying the above from Google searches.
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2013/Aug/57
Also there's the above issue. These are things in the past, but AFAIK Linode
hasn't had those problems.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_vserver/cx10
For cheap virtual servers Hetzner has one for E3.90 per month, that is less
than the Digital Ocean offering and it has more RAM.
I'm not using this server for anything sensitive at this stage -- just
some web programming experiments such as this:
http://198.199.72.243/weather-graph/weath.php
which you are welcome to use.
I may start using the server for remote back up at some stage however.
I'm not much of an expert on security, I've seen it stated that so
system can ever be 100% secure. I just do what I can and use lots of
different passwords.
I may try out Hetznet at some stage as they apparently have debian and
ubuntu vms.
Regards,
David
For
cheaper hosting Linode is offering a VM with 1G of RAM and 24G of
storage for $US10 per month.
Digital Ocean offers VM for $5 per month with 20G
storage. 
5:17 p.m.
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 06:48:34PM +1000, David Zuccaro via luv-main wrote:
On 29/05/16 11:52, Russell Coker wrote:
I see your weather graph, and raise you another :)
http://rjh.org/~rjh/melbourne/
not quite as fancy as yours, but it's been going a couple of decades.
I had to laugh when size and layout optimisations made for 28.8k modems
also made it easier to be mobile phone friendly.
it runs on centos7 with the $5 Digital Ocean plan. I've nothing but
good things to say about them.
cheers,
robin
On Sun, 29 May 2016 10:51:33 AM David Zuccaro via
luv-main wrote:
>>For cheaper hosting Linode is offering a VM with 1G of RAM and 24G of
>>storage for $US10 per month.
>Digital Ocean offers VM for $5 per month with 20G storage.
I'm not using
this server for anything sensitive at this stage --
just some web programming experiments such as this:
http://198.199.72.243/weather-graph/weath.php
which you are welcome to use.
8:09 p.m.
On 31/05/16 03:17, Robin Humble via luv-main wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 06:48:34PM +1000, David
Zuccaro via luv-main wrote:
Nice work mate. My graph was done with matplotlib (a python library,
which is very good), python and php. Currently working on a stock
charting page.
On 29/05/16 11:52, Russell Coker wrote:
I see your weather graph, and raise you another :)
http://rjh.org/~rjh/melbourne/
not quite as fancy as yours, but it's been going a couple of decades.
I had to laugh when size and layout optimisations made for 28.8k modems
also made it easier to be mobile phone friendly.
it runs on centos7 with the $5 Digital Ocean plan. I've nothing but
good things to say about them. On Sun, 29 May 2016 10:51:33 AM David Zuccaro via
luv-main wrote:
>> For cheaper hosting Linode is offering a VM with 1G of RAM and 24G of
>> storage for $US10 per month.
> Digital Ocean offers VM for $5 per month with 20G storage.
I'm not using
this server for anything sensitive at this stage --
just some web programming experiments such as this:
http://198.199.72.243/weather-graph/weath.php
which you are welcome to use.
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