Removing old printer drivers installed as a deb
Hi All, I have had a pretty crappy run with print drivers on my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop, including one that I got from Epson in England. But today, after accepting the offer to upgrade, my machine jumped from 16.04 to 17.10. But before I could enjoy it it offered the upgrade to 18.04, same as my desktop. But the Printer driver I had installed in 16.04 is now running extremely well in 18.04, same printer, no surprise. So now, I want to remove all traces of the other epson drivers I had installed from deb files. How do I find them, how do I delete them? I will use exactly the same driver as is running so well in my laptop. Can someone point me in the right direction, in RPM land I was fine. But there is better maintenance of GIMP and Darktable in this side of the force. Gratefully Andrew Greig
Hello Andrew, On 6/11/18, Andrew Greig via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi All,
I have had a pretty crappy run with print drivers on my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop, including one that I got from Epson in England.
But today, after accepting the offer to upgrade, my machine jumped from 16.04 to 17.10. But before I could enjoy it it offered the upgrade to 18.04, same as my desktop.
But the Printer driver I had installed in 16.04 is now running extremely well in 18.04, same printer, no surprise.
So now, I want to remove all traces of the other epson drivers I had installed from deb files. How do I find them, how do I delete them? I will use exactly the same driver as is running so well in my laptop.
Can someone point me in the right direction, in RPM land I was fine. But there is better maintenance of GIMP and Darktable in this side of the force.
Depends on whether you are happy with the command line, or graphical interface. Command line is the "apt" toolset, try "man apt-get" for a start. I am not up to speed with all of them, but they are exceedingly powerful. On the graphical side, look for "Synaptic". The advantage of the command line is that you can query for dependencies, less apparent in the graphical interface, it just handles it in the background, choose to install a package, and it will point out the unmet dependencies and ask if you are prepared to mark them for installation also. This is why I went for Debian and derivatives, getting away from dependency hell. RPM based distributions have improved that, but the Apt toolset are still class leaders. I too have some printer issues, I need to better understand CUPS and how it all ties together. I also went looking for a CAPT printer driver from Canon, but so far only the 32 bit version when I want for 64 bit Debian. I would prefer open source, but do not know of any support yet. I will be better with the Brother colour lasers, especially the one I more want to use, it supports BrotherScript, a variant on Postscript.
Gratefully
Andrew Greig
Regards, Mark Trickett
On 11/06/18 17:14, Mark Trickett via luv-main wrote:
Hello Andrew,
On 6/11/18, Andrew Greig via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi All,
I have had a pretty crappy run with print drivers on my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop, including one that I got from Epson in England.
But today, after accepting the offer to upgrade, my machine jumped from 16.04 to 17.10. But before I could enjoy it it offered the upgrade to 18.04, same as my desktop.
But the Printer driver I had installed in 16.04 is now running extremely well in 18.04, same printer, no surprise.
So now, I want to remove all traces of the other epson drivers I had installed from deb files. How do I find them, how do I delete them? I will use exactly the same driver as is running so well in my laptop.
Can someone point me in the right direction, in RPM land I was fine. But there is better maintenance of GIMP and Darktable in this side of the force. Depends on whether you are happy with the command line, or graphical interface. Command line is the "apt" toolset, try "man apt-get" for a start. I am not up to speed with all of them, but they are exceedingly powerful. On the graphical side, look for "Synaptic". The advantage of the command line is that you can query for dependencies, less apparent in the graphical interface, it just handles it in the background, choose to install a package, and it will point out the unmet dependencies and ask if you are prepared to mark them for installation also.
This is why I went for Debian and derivatives, getting away from dependency hell. RPM based distributions have improved that, but the Apt toolset are still class leaders.
I too have some printer issues, I need to better understand CUPS and how it all ties together. I also went looking for a CAPT printer driver from Canon, but so far only the 32 bit version when I want for 64 bit Debian. I would prefer open source, but do not know of any support yet.
I will be better with the Brother colour lasers, especially the one I more want to use, it supports BrotherScript, a variant on Postscript.
Gratefully
Andrew Greig Regards,
Mark Trickett _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main Hi Mark, thanks for the reply, incidentally the Ricoh Color Laser we had some years ago had a Brother knock of as well. Identical machine but to preserve Ricoh's price gouging the toner cartridges from Brother had a tab in a different place. Remove the Tab and the cartridge fitted. Ricoh were $220 and brother were $120, expensive tab.
Most color lasers need no more than downloading the PPD file and pointing to it when installing the printer in CUPS. I found sudo apt-get purge packagename. I know what I installed so here goes. Andrew Greig
On 11/06/18 17:29, Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote:
I found sudo apt-get purge packagename. I know what I installed so here goes.
In recent versions of Debian (and Ubuntu) there is now an "apt" command that acts as a front-end to the entire family of apt commands and provides pretty output (including progress bars) on terminals. So you can try using "apt install", "apt search", "apt purge" etc. in future. Hope that helps, Andrew
On 11/06/18 17:56, Andrew Pam wrote:
On 11/06/18 17:29, Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote:
I found sudo apt-get purge packagename. I know what I installed so here goes. In recent versions of Debian (and Ubuntu) there is now an "apt" command that acts as a front-end to the entire family of apt commands and provides pretty output (including progress bars) on terminals. So you can try using "apt install", "apt search", "apt purge" etc. in future.
Hope that helps, Andrew Thanks Andrew, filing it away, it used to be urpmi gramps for example just warming to this new way forward.
Andrew
Hello Andrew, On 6/11/18, Andrew Greig via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
On 11/06/18 17:14, Mark Trickett via luv-main wrote:
Hello Andrew,
On 6/11/18, Andrew Greig via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hi All,
I have had a pretty crappy run with print drivers on my Ubuntu 18.04 desktop, including one that I got from Epson in England.
Printers are pretty useful, but too many use proprietary commands. At least the HP Printer Control language (think I got that right) is reasonably standard, along with a "correct" Postscript implementation. The Epson EscP2 (I think) is also reasonably well documented. As to why Canon had to develop the CAPT interface, I suspect not paying licence money, and it sucks. I have learned quite a lot about the architecture and control of CUPS, but a lot more yet before I can properly sort out my problems.
I will be better with the Brother colour lasers, especially the one I more want to use, it supports BrotherScript, a variant on Postscript.
As mentioned elsewhere, a PPD file is part of the solution, but only part. I too am pleased to know of more parts to the Apt toolset.
Gratefully
Andrew Greig
Regards, Mark Trickett
On Monday, 11 June 2018 4:46:17 PM AEST Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction, in RPM land I was fine.
Probably the best thing in such situations is to tell us exactly what you did with rpm that you are having trouble doing with dpkg/apt. The apt purge command has been mentioned. You might also be after "dpkg -S /path/filename" and "dpkg -l '*cups*'|cat". -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
On 11/06/18 21:12, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
On Monday, 11 June 2018 4:46:17 PM AEST Andrew Greig via luv-main wrote:
Can someone point me in the right direction, in RPM land I was fine. Probably the best thing in such situations is to tell us exactly what you did with rpm that you are having trouble doing with dpkg/apt.
The apt purge command has been mentioned. You might also be after "dpkg -S /path/filename" and "dpkg -l '*cups*'|cat".
Hi Russell, Thanks for your reply, I successfully purged the 2 debs that I had installed, and then I loaded CUPS to install the "new" printer. I still do not have exactly what I have on my laptop, but I do have a printer that works, now. I am not so desperate to load the scanner drivers a I am still relying on the second-hand Epson 7000S SCSI scanner that I bought ten years ago for $100, Best money I ever spent. I will be stuffed however if I upgrade to a motherboard with no connection for SCSI. The best there was in RPM land was the Mandrake/Mandriva Control Centre, a truly magnificent utility. SuSe had yast which is a poor imitation, and it was OK. In Mandriva one could su to root and then run urpmi om the command line. Anyway, now I am on my photographic journey, well served by GIMP and Darktable which are meant to talk to each other (Also RAWTherapee and GIMP), and this happens in Windows but not in Linux. And it is not an rpm vs deb thing as it did not work in OpenSuSe before I defected. But it may be that because GIMP is now installed via Flatpak that the presence of Darktable is not recognised. But I have a post on that in another thread. Cheers Andrew
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