Re: Any USB 3G broadband usable under Linux?
At 11:41 AM 7/16/2012, Brian May wrote:
On 15 July 2012 21:16, James Harper <james.harper@bendigoit.com.au> wrote:
I'm all for Microsoft bashing, but if you are implying that Windows doesn't support IPv6 then you are very wrong. In fact you'll have trouble with some of their server software if you disable IPv6.
Lots of people still use Windows XP, which doesn't have built in IPv6 support. I believe there is an add-on that provides IPv6 support, however this was the first attempt Microsoft made, and as a result not recommended for serious use. Or so I have read.
You can run IPv6 on XP by issuing the command: ipv6 install However, as you say, it's not a production quality stack, though it does work fine for everyday end user purposes (I've used it extensively). Configuration is not done by the control panel, you need to use special commands and/or registry tweaks. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
On 16/07/2012, at 5:44 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
At 11:41 AM 7/16/2012, Brian May wrote:
Lots of people still use Windows XP, which doesn't have built in IPv6 support. I believe there is an add-on that provides IPv6 support, however this was the first attempt Microsoft made, and as a result not recommended for serious use. Or so I have read.
However, as you say, it's not a production quality stack, though it does work fine for everyday end user purposes (I've used it extensively).
The level of Windows ignorance on this list is quite incredible. Lack of knowledge is excusable (this is a Linux list, after all) — simply making up facts, however, is not. Microsoft has considered IPv6 in Windows XP to be production quality since XP Service Pack 1:
In September 2002, Windows XP Service Pack 1 was released with the first edition of a production IPv6 stack and some IPv6-enabled components.
— <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb726949.aspx> Granted, there is no GUI to configure IPv6 on Windows XP. However, Router Advertisement (RA) works fine, and you can set state addresses via the command line if you *really* need to:
On Windows XP a later, a new command-line tool is provided for configuring and managing IPv4. This tool uses the "netsh interface ip" command for configuring and managing IPv4.
On Windows XP with Service Pack 1 (SP1) and later, this new command-line tool was enhanced to support the configuration and management of IPv6. This enhanced tool is the "netsh interface ipv6" command. Configuration changes made using the Netsh.exe commands are permanent and are not lost when the computer or the IPv6 protocol is restarted.
— <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms740598(v=vs.85).aspx> Only thing really lacking in XP is support for DNS over IPv6, and stateless DHCPv6 or RDNSS support (for DNS discovery). Hopefully by now XP will be dead (in my clientele, anyone likely to be deploying v6 is already a Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 shop). That all being said, the sooner we are rid of XP, the better.
On Mon, 16 Jul 2012, Jeremy Visser <jeremy@visser.name> wrote:
On 16/07/2012, at 5:44 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
However, as you say, it's not a production quality stack, though it does work fine for everyday end user purposes (I've used it extensively).
The level of Windows ignorance on this list is quite incredible. Lack of knowledge is excusable (this is a Linux list, after all) — simply making up facts, however, is not. Microsoft has considered IPv6 in Windows XP to be production quality since XP Service Pack 1:
Why is the opinion of MS worth more than Tony's opinion in this discussion? Presumably people like Tony have tried things out and have their own reasons for determining what is "production quality".
Granted, there is no GUI to configure IPv6 on Windows XP.
On an OS where it's expected that everything can be configured via a GUI that alone could be an adequate reason for describing something as not being "production quality". Of course you can't really define "production quality" anyway, see the previous discussions about BTRFS and ZFS for examples. So claims about software being not of production quality which aren't followed by specific examples of failures are statements of opinion which can't be disproved. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 09:30:36PM +1000, Jeremy Visser wrote:
[...] Microsoft has considered IPv6 in Windows XP to be production quality since XP Service Pack 1:
OTOH, Microsoft considered XP itself to be "production quality". quality standards vary. and Microsoft's are considerably different to those of the average linux geek. craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au> BOFH excuse #7: poor power conditioning
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