
It seems that we may have access to hardware for running training on Xen. At this stage it's not certain whether we get hardware and whether we get hosting. But it's a possibility and the outcome of this discussion may change the probability of it happening. A good time for this might be the beginner's SIG, not because training would be just for beginners, but because it's a good way of getting net access. If that isn't a good option then we could do it at some other time and place. I have enough unused quota on my 3G Internet connection for this that I can share via Wifi and apart from long ping times 3G net access is quite good for such things (ssh requires little bandwidth). I'm thinking of running training on some of the basic Internet protocols. DNS (including dynamic updates), SMTP (including SMTP-auth, IMAP, and maybe SQL authentication), DKIM, HTTP (maybe setting up something like Wordpress or MediaWiki), and whatever gets interest. If this idea takes off then probably other people would offer various training. Ideally all the virtual servers would have public IP addresses so anyone who wishes could go home and keep working on it - and discuss it on this list. Also we can use real world DNS etc so things can work the way they really work. When you setup a mail server you can send mail to gmail etc for testing. Note that we haven't necessarily got the hardware or a place to run it. So at this time there's no guarantee that it will happen. I can probably get hosting with plenty of IPv4 addresses but it will have limited bandwidth - but enough for 30 DomUs if everyone plays nicely. Also I haven't discussed this with the LUV committee, I'm raising it here first because if there isn't interest then we can skip the committee discussion. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Russell Coker wrote:
I'm thinking of running training on some of the basic Internet protocols. DNS (including dynamic updates), SMTP (including SMTP-auth, IMAP, and maybe SQL authentication), DKIM, HTTP (maybe setting up something like Wordpress or MediaWiki), and whatever gets interest. If this idea takes off then probably other people would offer various training.
Sounds good to me. -- Tim Connors

At 08:35 PM 1/15/2013, Russell Coker wrote:
I'm thinking of running training on some of the basic Internet protocols. DNS (including dynamic updates), SMTP (including SMTP-auth, IMAP, and maybe SQL authentication), DKIM, HTTP (maybe setting up something like Wordpress or MediaWiki), and whatever gets interest. If this idea takes off then probably other people would offer various training.
Sounds like a good idea. It's a pity Melbourne is no longer convenient for me, otherwise I'd be interested (would be a mix of a refresher/update and some new stuff for me). :) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com

O-----Original Message----- From: Russell Coker Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:35 PM To: luv-main@luv.asn.au Subject: training I'm thinking of running training on some of the basic Internet protocols. DNS (including dynamic updates), SMTP (including SMTP-auth, IMAP, and maybe SQL authentication), DKIM, HTTP (maybe setting up something like Wordpress or MediaWiki), and whatever gets interest. If this idea takes off then probably other people would offer various training. Ideally all the virtual servers would have public IP addresses so anyone who wishes could go home and keep working on it - and discuss it on this list. Also we can use real world DNS etc so things can work the way they really work. When you setup a mail server you can send mail to gmail etc for testing. Sound very interesting, myself and a couple of guys I work with would be more then interested to attend. Cheers, Chris

I would welcome some training. Sounds like a great idea to me. - Edward On 16 January 2013 10:54, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@gmail.com> wrote:
At 08:35 PM 1/15/2013, Russell Coker wrote:
I'm thinking of running training on some of the basic Internet protocols. DNS (including dynamic updates), SMTP (including SMTP-auth, IMAP, and maybe SQL authentication), DKIM, HTTP (maybe setting up something like Wordpress or MediaWiki), and whatever gets interest. If this idea takes off then probably other people would offer various training.
Sounds like a good idea. It's a pity Melbourne is no longer convenient for me, otherwise I'd be interested (would be a mix of a refresher/update and some new stuff for me). :)
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea. It's a pity Melbourne is no longer convenient for me, otherwise I'd be interested (would be a mix of a refresher/update and some new stuff for me). :)
Well the same stuff could be done over the Internet, although that would be more difficult. Maybe we could have the students who do it live give email support to those who don't? Sometimes teaching is the best way of learning. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

That's an idea. One critical issue this time of year is timing, I'm heavily committed on weekends until the end of March, and there's the risk of being called away to a fire in the summer months. Sent from my iPhone On 16/01/2013, at 11:42 AM, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@gmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea. It's a pity Melbourne is no longer convenient for me, otherwise I'd be interested (would be a mix of a refresher/update and some new stuff for me). :)
Well the same stuff could be done over the Internet, although that would be more difficult. Maybe we could have the students who do it live give email support to those who don't? Sometimes teaching is the best way of learning.
-- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@gmail.com> wrote:
That's an idea. One critical issue this time of year is timing, I'm heavily committed on weekends until the end of March, and there's the risk of being called away to a fire in the summer months.
Getting hardware takes time, installing the OS and deploying it takes time, preparing lessons takes time. It seems unlikely that the first lesson would be before March. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

At 01:14 PM 1/16/2013, Russell Coker wrote:
It seems unlikely that the first lesson would be before March.
Make that April and it becomes feasible. :) 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
participants (5)
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Christopher M. Bailey
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Russell Coker
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thelionroars
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Tim Connors
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Tony Langdon