kfreebsd dropped as an official release architecture for Debian Jessie

There was some discussion on the list a while ago about the future of kfreebsd in Debian after all the systemd furore and the release maintainers saying they were not happy with the state of that architecture for the Jessie release and would decide post November 1st if it was to be dropped. The latest release team sprint did look again at the three architectures that were in question (arm64, ppc64el and kfreebsd) and have decided thus: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html # Architectures # ============= # # There remained yes/no decisions for arm64, ppc64el, and kfreebsd. # # arm64 and ppc64el have made enough progress to be release # architectures for Jessie. Britney no longer has special handling # for these two. Therefore, FTBFS regressions for arm64 and ppc64el # are now release critical (but non-regressions are not). # # We discussed kfreebsd at length, but are not satisfied that a # release with Jessie will be of sufficient quality. We are dropping # it as an official release architecture, though we do hope that the # porters will be able to make a simultaneous unofficial release. So there we go. All the best, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC

On 10/11/2014 5:30 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
# We discussed kfreebsd at length, but are not satisfied that a # release with Jessie will be of sufficient quality. We are dropping # it as an official release architecture, though we do hope that the # porters will be able to make a simultaneous unofficial release.
So there we go.
Wow, so the "Lennart Poettering Linux" is the future then, with BTRFS too. So sorry about the way things have turned out. Looks like FreeBSD direct will be the way forward for so many now. A.

On 10 November 2014 at 17:52, Andrew McGlashan < andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
On 10/11/2014 5:30 PM, Chris Samuel wrote:
# We discussed kfreebsd at length, but are not satisfied that a # release with Jessie will be of sufficient quality. We are dropping # it as an official release architecture, though we do hope that the # porters will be able to make a simultaneous unofficial release.
So there we go.
Wow, so the "Lennart Poettering Linux" is the future then, with BTRFS too.
So sorry about the way things have turned out. Looks like FreeBSD direct will be the way forward for so many now.
FreeBSD could be so much better if only they adopted something like SystemD too :-)
From https://lists.debian.org/20141127002808.GA6801@stephen-desktop
"Indeed and even FreeBSD acknowledges that they need a new init. I often see the oponents of sytemd touting the BSDs. "See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mri66Uz6-8Y#t=1643 John Hubbard talking about how an approach like systemd is needed on FreeBSD." -- Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au>

On 27/11/2014 11:53 AM, Brian May wrote:
FreeBSD could be so much better if only they adopted something like SystemD too :-)
From https://lists.debian.org/20141127002808.GA6801@stephen-desktop
"Indeed and even FreeBSD acknowledges that they need a new init. I often see the oponents of sytemd touting the BSDs.
"See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mri66Uz6-8Y#t=1643 John Hubbard talking about how an approach like systemd is needed on FreeBSD."
Something /like/ systemd for BSD will not be anything like what systemd is scoped out to be ... systemd is already not just an init system, it is already much more than that and it will be much more again. If systemd was ONLY an init system, then there would be far less concern. A.

Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
Wow, so the "Lennart Poettering Linux" is the future then, with BTRFS too.
So sorry about the way things have turned out. Looks like FreeBSD direct will be the way forward for so many now.
I'm not one of them. I've been running Systemd (with journald) on several systems for a while now, and I'm pleased with it. I don't have time to debate the SysV-Init advocates on the list, who are entitled to their views, but I want to state my opinion for the record that some long-time Linux users actually like what Lennart Poettering et al have been doing in regard to Systemd. I'm also in favour of BTRFS, but I think it's taking a rather long time for its reliability issues to be solved.
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Andrew McGlashan
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