Re: Linux compatible portable mp3 player

First off, I'm replying to a digest, so sorry if this breaks threaded readers... The other option, if the friend is tech-savvy themselves...(or has a tech-savvy friend :) ) is to keep the iHardware and to load it with RockBox [0] Setting it up can be a bit beyond the normal person, as modifies boot sectors and what have you, but once set up, it's pretty bullet-proof. I have two iPods, both loaded with this and it works well. Music can be copied on and off buy putting the device into disk mode and it's treated as any USB mass storage device. Playlists are easily created/modified by putting the unit into disk mode and using your text editor of choice. Also has the advantage that it supports more media formats (eg .ogg and .flac). It's also available for other players. Worth considering. One caveat is that I have not used it for video playback and have no idea of its capabilities (or otherwise) there. [0] http://www.rockbox.org/
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Message: 5 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:55:48 +1100 From: "Peter Ross" <Petros.Listig@fdrive.com.au> Subject: Re: Linux compatible portable mp3 player To: luv-main@luv.asn.au Message-ID: < 6ec7c5187cc0f33b58789b4963bc0506.squirrel@mailbox.alumni.tu-berlin.de>
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Thats exactly why I asked for specfic recomendations, the person concerned has very large collection of "old country/bush" music from all over the world. His existing player an (I think) an Apple Ipod classic has been giving him no end of trouble by refusing to let him copy anything off the player. He wish's to get another player and does not want to fall into the same trap.
This sounds like a device for a person who loves music:
QA350 MOD V2--SD Card WAV High Fidelity Music Player http://www.qlshifi.com/en/wzcapi/qa350_mod_v2.htm
I found this review here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39q09iU01sg
I am not an expert in audio electronics so I cannot compare this "audio dedicated" equipment against a modern phone/tablet (e.g. the mentioned Samsung Galaxy)
Even a simple smartphone (e.g. the ZTE Open with Firefox OS as I am using) has a better way of browsing through a music collection as the Sony PCM M10 or the device mentioned above.
I love to have it on SD cards. You can easily copy it (e.g. to a USB stick which can be used in audio equipment with an USB port), put it in a laptop, or burn a CD etc.
It is also easy to copy it to "the next media" coming up in five years time.
In fact my whole audio collection grown over the decades could fit on a few SD cards..
Of course there is Neil Young's Pono: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pono_%28digital_music_service%29
Regards Peter
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2014-10-17 4:00 GMT+02:00 Andrew Mather <mathera@gmail.com>:
The other option, if the friend is tech-savvy themselves...(or has a tech-savvy friend :) ) is to keep the iHardware and to load it with RockBox [0]
Setting it up can be a bit beyond the normal person, as modifies boot sectors and what have you, but once set up, it's pretty bullet-proof.
I have two iPods, both loaded with this and it works well. Music can be copied on and off buy putting the device into disk mode and it's treated as any USB mass storage device. Playlists are easily created/modified by putting the unit into disk mode and using your text editor of choice.
Also has the advantage that it supports more media formats (eg .ogg and .flac).
You convince me! I'll do as soon as I find a bit of time. How long does it possibly take for the operation? -- Mick

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Michele Bert <micbert75@gmail.com> wrote:
Also has the advantage that it supports more media formats (eg .ogg and .flac).
You convince me! I'll do as soon as I find a bit of time. How long does it possibly take for the operation?
Any Android phone can run a player that supports ogg and flac. I've only replaced the OS on one of the many Android phones I've owned, it was too much effort. If RockBox installation is as difficult as CyanogenMod installation (and it's probably more difficult) then the time taken to install multiplied by the hourly rate of someone who is capable of doing the installation would exceed the ebay purchase price of a quite usable Android phone. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

2014-10-17 12:05 GMT+02:00 Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>:
You convince me! I'll do as soon as I find a bit of time. How long does it possibly take for the operation?
Any Android phone can run a player that supports ogg and flac.
I've only replaced the OS on one of the many Android phones I've owned, it was too much effort.
If RockBox installation is as difficult as CyanogenMod installation (and it's probably more difficult) then the time taken to install multiplied by the hourly rate of someone who is capable of doing the installation would exceed the ebay purchase price of a quite usable Android phone.
I think nobody's suggesting to by an iSomething and replace its firmare, but if you already have a perfectly working ipod-nano II, like me, I think it's a good idea to make it a bit more free. And I find the car mode so amazing!!!!! I want it! As far as cyanogen's concerned, I installed it to my Nexus 7 (first edition), still with the old "difficult" way, but I don't find it difficult at all. As far as I know nowdays there is a much simpler installer. -- Mick

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014, Michele Bert <micbert75@gmail.com> wrote:
2014-10-17 12:05 GMT+02:00 Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>:
You convince me! I'll do as soon as I find a bit of time. How long does it possibly take for the operation?
Any Android phone can run a player that supports ogg and flac.
I've only replaced the OS on one of the many Android phones I've owned, it was too much effort.
If RockBox installation is as difficult as CyanogenMod installation (and it's probably more difficult) then the time taken to install multiplied by the hourly rate of someone who is capable of doing the installation would exceed the ebay purchase price of a quite usable Android phone.
I think nobody's suggesting to by an iSomething and replace its firmare, but if you already have a perfectly working ipod-nano II, like me, I think it's a good idea to make it a bit more free.
You could do that if it's fun for you. But if you want to just get something working then buying something that just works from ebay would be easier.
And I find the car mode so amazing!!!!! I want it!
As far as cyanogen's concerned, I installed it to my Nexus 7 (first edition), still with the old "difficult" way, but I don't find it difficult at all. As far as I know nowdays there is a much simpler installer.
The installation shouldn't have been very difficult when I did it. But things didn't go the way they should have even though I followed all instructions. Nexus devices are probably easier because there's little variation. But for phones sold by Telcos (such as the Optus Galaxy S I used) there can be subtle differences that break things. Fortunately the Galaxy series is difficult to brick. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/

2014-10-17 15:57 GMT+02:00 Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au>:
if you already have a perfectly working ipod-nano II,
like me, I think it's a good idea to make it a bit more free.
You could do that if it's fun for you. But if you want to just get something working then buying something that just works from ebay would be easier.
Of course, or if you know someone who would have fun doing it for you.
As far as cyanogen's concerned, I installed it to my Nexus 7 (first edition), still with the old "difficult" way, but I don't find it difficult at all. As far as I know nowdays there is a much simpler installer.
The installation shouldn't have been very difficult when I did it. But things didn't go the way they should have even though I followed all instructions. Nexus devices are probably easier because there's little variation. But for phones sold by Telcos (such as the Optus Galaxy S I used) there can be subtle differences that break things. Fortunately the Galaxy series is difficult to brick.
You are right. I generalized too much my case. -- Michele
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