28 Sep
2016
28 Sep
'16
11:33 p.m.
I run Debian/Unstable on my laptop because I'm a DD and it helps to test all
the new software.
The new version of VIM has just been added, and I don't like it. By default
it uses it's own copy/paste mechanism and doesn't seem to support the system
clipboard. What I want is to have VIM not really know about the system
clipboard and just use a middle-button click to paste with my Xterm (Konsole
in this case) and have VIM just take the text. Is it possible to do this with
the new version of VIM?
What are other good programmers editors? I want something that will preserve
white-space so it doesn't generate ridiculous diffs (no converting tabs to
spaces or spaces to tabs).
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1 Oct
1 Oct
9:49 p.m.
On 28/09/16 23:33, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
I run Debian/Unstable on my laptop because I'm a
DD and it helps to test all
the new software.
The new version of VIM has just been added, and I don't like it. By default
it uses it's own copy/paste mechanism and doesn't seem to support the system
clipboard. What I want is to have VIM not really know about the system
clipboard and just use a middle-button click to paste with my Xterm (Konsole
in this case) and have VIM just take the text. Is it possible to do this with
the new version of VIM?
What are other good programmers editors? I want something that will preserve
white-space so it doesn't generate ridiculous diffs (no converting tabs to
spaces or spaces to tabs).
I like geany which is a GU editor.
6 Oct
6 Oct
12:04 p.m.
On 2016-09-28 23:40:18 +1000 (Wed)
Russell Coker via luv-main <luv-main(a)luv.asn.au> wrote:
What I want is to have VIM not really know about the
system
clipboard and just use a middle-button click to paste with my Xterm (Konsole
in this case) and have VIM just take the text. Is it possible to do this with
the new version of VIM?
IIRC I had this issue and "solved" it with the following config options:
:set mouse=
:set ttymouse=
What are other good programmers editors?
There are none :P
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19 Oct
19 Oct
7:30 p.m.
On 2016-10-06 12:10:05 +1100 (Thu)
Todd Harbour via luv-main <luv-main(a)luv.asn.au> wrote:
IIRC I had this issue and "solved" it with
the following config options:
:set mouse=
:set ttymouse=
Russell,
I just encountered this on one of my other systems and actually found
the answer to be the clipboard variable. To "fix" vim I used:
:set clipboard=
From a quick test this stopped vim from clobbering my X11
CLIPBOARD/SELECTION on visual selection etc. Also, I am still able to
use "* and "+ to manipulate the X11 SELECTION if desired, I believe due
to my ttymouse being set to:
ttymouse=xterm2
FWIW, my mouse variable is also unset.
Anyway, obviously, YMMV as I'm just using trial-and-error here :P
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20 Oct
20 Oct
7:11 p.m.
let g:skip_defaults_vim = 1
The latest version of vim in Debian/Unstable suggests adding the above to /
etc/vim/vimrc.local to get the past behavior. A quick test indicates that it
does as desired. But thanks for the other suggestions, it's good to have
plenty of options for the lurkers.
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 7:30:07 PM AEDT Todd Harbour via luv-main wrote:
On 2016-10-06 12:10:05 +1100 (Thu)
Todd Harbour via luv-main <luv-main(a)luv.asn.au> wrote:
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IIRC I had this issue and "solved" it
with the following config options:
:set mouse=
:set ttymouse=
Russell,
I just encountered this on one of my other systems and actually found
the answer to be the clipboard variable. To "fix" vim I used:
:set clipboard=
From a quick test this stopped vim from clobbering my X11
CLIPBOARD/SELECTION on visual selection etc. Also, I am still able to
use "* and "+ to manipulate the X11 SELECTION if desired, I believe due
to my ttymouse being set to:
ttymouse=xterm2
FWIW, my mouse variable is also unset.
Anyway, obviously, YMMV as I'm just using trial-and-error here :P 
9:22 p.m.
On 20.10.16 19:11, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
let g:skip_defaults_vim = 1
The latest version of vim in Debian/Unstable suggests adding the above to /
etc/vim/vimrc.local to get the past behavior. A quick test indicates that it
does as desired. But thanks for the other suggestions, it's good to have
plenty of options for the lurkers.
Er, that looks like a hefty hammer. The name "skip_defaults_vim"
intimates that it'll revert all the new defaults, and
etc/vim/vimrc.local rather than ~/.vimrc imposes it on all users. But
they can then individually add back in whatever, anyway, I guess.
The pasting problem was raised on vim_users ML on the 9th:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vim_use/fvIx5ZEWFXs
And `:set mouse=` was offered as the canonical fix.
(But anything that works is great ... until the secondary effects are
encountered.)
Erik
9:56 p.m.
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 9:22:56 PM AEDT Erik Christiansen via luv-main
wrote:
When I'm the only vim user on a system that works well. In cases where I'm
not the only vim user on the system everyone will be accessing it without X so
there probably won't be much difference.
True multi-user Linux systems are getting rare.
The latest
version of vim in Debian/Unstable suggests adding the above to
/
etc/vim/vimrc.local to get the past behavior. A quick test indicates that
it does as desired. But thanks for the other suggestions, it's good to
have plenty of options for the lurkers.
Er, that looks like a hefty hammer. The name "skip_defaults_vim"
intimates that it'll revert all the new defaults, and
etc/vim/vimrc.local rather than ~/.vimrc imposes it on all users. But
they can then individually add back in whatever, anyway, I guess.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vim_use/fvIx5ZEWFXs
And `:set mouse=` was offered as the canonical fix.
(But anything that works is great ... until the secondary effects are
encountered.)
;)
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My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
6 Oct
6 Oct
5:27 p.m.
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:33:55PM +1000, luv-main wrote:
I run Debian/Unstable on my laptop because I'm a
DD and it helps to test all
the new software.
The new version of VIM has just been added, and I don't like it. By default
it uses it's own copy/paste mechanism and doesn't seem to support the system
clipboard. What I want is to have VIM not really know about the system
clipboard and just use a middle-button click to paste with my Xterm (Konsole
in this case) and have VIM just take the text. Is it possible to do this with
the new version of VIM?
What are other good programmers editors? I want something that will preserve
white-space so it doesn't generate ridiculous diffs (no converting tabs to
spaces or spaces to tabs).
I use Q (https://github.com/duncan-roe/q). Your .qrc can specify no tab
conversion and preserve trailing spaces, if that is what you want.
Cheers ... Duncan.
8 Oct
8 Oct
10:09 p.m.
On 28.09.16 23:33, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
I run Debian/Unstable on my laptop because I'm a
DD and it helps to test all
the new software.
The new version of VIM has just been added, and I don't like it. By default
it uses it's own copy/paste mechanism and doesn't seem to support the system
clipboard. What I want is to have VIM not really know about the system
clipboard and just use a middle-button click to paste with my Xterm (Konsole
in this case) and have VIM just take the text. Is it possible to do this with
the new version of VIM?
Russel, I've not yet updated to the latest Vim, but am confident that it
will maintain compatibility with the system clipboard. The defaults
which were changed were all said to be for increased user convenience,
so if they cause the described problem, those responsible might be
quickly reverted, to avoid any need to tweak .vimrc.
A question on the vim-users ML always elicits a quick and informed
response, I find.
Erik
(Who also relies on middle-button paste to Vim, rather than "+p or "*p .)
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