On Sunday, 9 August 2020 4:35:42 PM AEST Robin Stephens via luv-talk wrote:
Been busy with life last few years so have not had time to engage with many of the communities I used to be involved with.
Hope you are all safe and well.
Just curious about the status of LUV lately. Mailing list seems semi active but the web site is severely broken.
Thanks for pointing that out, I'll look into it. I have monitoring for the basic connectivity but good or bad Drupal content looks the same to my monitoring system.
Is luv-main still the primary place for discussion of all things Linux in Victoria?
Yes. Thanks Rick for pointing out other video meetups. Rick if there's any interesting Linux video meetup you plan to join please send the link to luv- main. 2020 is a dumpster fire. I'm more depressed than usual and finding it difficult to arrange things. I've setup a LUV Jitsi VM with low ping times in Melbourne (less than 5ms ping time to www.theage.com.au), we just need to arrange some stuff. I think we need to get some more committee members who are in a good mental state to do stuff. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
Quoting Russell Coker (russell@coker.com.au):
Thanks Rick for pointing out other video meetups. Rick if there's any interesting Linux video meetup you plan to join please send the link to luv- main.
Will be glad to.
2020 is a dumpster fire. I'm more depressed than usual and finding it difficult to arrange things. I've setup a LUV Jitsi VM with low ping times in Melbourne (less than 5ms ping time to www.theage.com.au), we just need to arrange some stuff.
Russell, if I may help or advise, I of course will -- but I take it as given that you have this in hand. -- Cheers, "My hot flight attendant asked how I like my coffee. Rick Moen And that's when she told me: 'That's cute, honey, but rick@linuxmafia.com the coffee's free. You don't have to pay for it, here." McQ! (4x80) (seen on Twitter)
On Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:03:15 AM AEST Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
Russell, if I may help or advise, I of course will -- but I take it as given that you have this in hand.
I have the technical aspects under control. What we need is someone to find some people willing to speak and arrange a meeting. It's not technically difficult, just needs someone to do it who's not too depressed. I've had a working Jitsi server for weeks, ready to do stuff with it. Also I want to test at various levels of use. Start with 5 people, then try 10+ before trying a full meeting. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
On 11/8/20 10:08 pm, Russell Coker via luv-main wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:03:15 AM AEST Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
Russell, if I may help or advise, I of course will -- but I take it as given that you have this in hand.
I have the technical aspects under control. What we need is someone to find some people willing to speak and arrange a meeting. It's not technically difficult, just needs someone to do it who's not too depressed.
I've had a working Jitsi server for weeks, ready to do stuff with it.
Also I want to test at various levels of use. Start with 5 people, then try 10+ before trying a full meeting.
I'll be in that. I've retired, so time can be a problem. I'm part of 2 jitsi meets, and have had mixed success. I set up a group on the public server. Generally 5 or 6 of us get 2 hours with few dramas. We've learnt that if you get a problem, just hang up and rejoin the meeting. Takes a minute or so, if you keep the link handy. The other has been hosted on a private server and I can only get chats - no audio nor video, using either firefox or chromium. Last meeting was on the public server, and all went well. From memory there were 9 of us. The last LUV meeting I went to was at Uni Melb. There must have been 100 people in the lecture theatre. Yes easily 10 years ago. It's a 90Km trip, a good 90 mins by the time the tram crawls up Collins St then Swanston St. And trains home were an hour apart in those days. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbau@gmail.com 0447 667468
On Wednesday, 12 August 2020 4:16:58 PM AEST Keith bainbridge via luv-main wrote:
Also I want to test at various levels of use. Start with 5 people, then try 10+ before trying a full meeting.
I'll be in that. I've retired, so time can be a problem.
What times of the day are best for you? I was thinking that for test purposes we could start with small informal chats, like 6PM every day for 20 mins (or however long people feel like it).
I'm part of 2 jitsi meets, and have had mixed success. I set up a group on the public server. Generally 5 or 6 of us get 2 hours with few dramas. We've learnt that if you get a problem, just hang up and rejoin the meeting. Takes a minute or so, if you keep the link handy.
The Jitsi meets I've been in haven't had much problems. I think I've got disconnected once out of about 5 and I'm not sure if that was an issue at my end.
The other has been hosted on a private server and I can only get chats - no audio nor video, using either firefox or chromium. Last meeting was on the public server, and all went well. From memory there were 9 of us.
I've got video working on the Jitsi instance I set up for LUV. I'll blog about how I did it soon. As an aside the Android app refuses to connect with an error that's not at all informative if the SSL certificate doesn't have enough of the chain while with the same key configuration Chrome etc work fine.
The last LUV meeting I went to was at Uni Melb. There must have been 100 people in the lecture theatre. Yes easily 10 years ago. It's a 90Km trip, a good 90 mins by the time the tram crawls up Collins St then Swanston St. And trains home were an hour apart in those days.
In the future the way things run will change due to the Pandemic. Meetings that aren't live streamed will become the unusual case. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
Quoting Russell Coker (russell@coker.com.au) (speaking to Keith Bainbridge):
What times of the day are best for you? I was thinking that for test purposes we could start with small informal chats, like 6PM every day for 20 mins (or however long people feel like it).
I would also be glad to participate at 6pm AEST. Please just let me know. FWIW (and I'm sure Russell knows this, so it's for some others' benefit), best results connecting to Jitsi Meet conferences are reported to be achieved with Chromium and derived browsers: Google Chrome, Brave Browser, Microsoft Edge, others (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers#Blink-based). Failing that, _recent_ Firefox versions (22+) are also good. The reason for this is that Jitsi Meet leverages the IETF WebRTC protocol suite for AV conferencing, and Chromium (& derivatives) and recent Firefox are said to have the best WebRTC support at this time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC#Support -- Cheers, "My hot flight attendant asked how I like my coffee. Rick Moen And that's when she told me: 'That's cute, honey, but rick@linuxmafia.com the coffee's free. You don't have to pay for it, here." McQ! (4x80) (seen on Twitter)
On 13/8/20 5:44 pm, Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
What times of the day are best for you? I was thinking that for test purposes we could start with small informal chats, like 6PM every day for 20 mins (or however long people feel like it).
I'll try when I can. I just found this response. What I do sometimes is open the meet, start some favourite music to share and leave it in the background. When people join, I hear them trying to talk to me. Probably won't last long the first couple of tries, but it will gradually improve. Looking forward to talking with some of you. -- Keith Bainbridge keithrbau@gmail.com 0447 667468
Are we giving this a try? Keith Bainbridge keith.bainbridge.3216@gmail.com 0447 667 468 On 13/8/20 10:05 pm, Keith bainbridge wrote:
On 13/8/20 5:44 pm, Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
What times of the day are best for you? I was thinking that for test purposes we could start with small informal chats, like 6PM every day for 20 mins (or however long people feel like it).
I'll try when I can. I just found this response.
What I do sometimes is open the meet, start some favourite music to share and leave it in the background. When people join, I hear them trying to talk to me. Probably won't last long the first couple of tries, but it will gradually improve.
Looking forward to talking with some of you.
On Friday, 14 August 2020 5:59:05 PM AEST Keith Bainbridge via luv-main wrote:
Are we giving this a try?
Not today, I only just checked my mail for this list. How about tomorrow 6PM?
On 13/8/20 10:05 pm, Keith bainbridge wrote:
On 13/8/20 5:44 pm, Rick Moen via luv-main wrote:
What times of the day are best for you? I was thinking that for test purposes we could start with small informal chats, like 6PM every day for 20 mins (or however long people feel like it).
I'll try when I can. I just found this response.
What I do sometimes is open the meet, start some favourite music to share and leave it in the background. When people join, I hear them trying to talk to me. Probably won't last long the first couple of tries, but it will gradually improve.
Looking forward to talking with some of you.
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Hi Russell et al, On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 01:31, Russell Coker via luv-main < luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Thanks Rick for pointing out other video meetups. Rick if there's any interesting Linux video meetup you plan to join please send the link to luv- main.
2020 is a dumpster fire. I'm more depressed than usual and finding it difficult to arrange things.
When the first isolation period started here in Melbourne, I was worried that even reclusive people like myself would have trouble with the emotional impact of it. At first glance it seems fantastic for an introvert like me: cut off from physical interaction; no travel; spending my time at my computer or workbench. Even so, we're all social and we depend on interaction to some degree. Without it our state of mind suffers. For some, it's a little. For others, it's a lot. So when the first isolation period started, I began a weekly 10am Sunday morning livestream where I spend 2 hours interacting with viewers and talking about mostly tech stuff. Obviously there's a strong home automation orientation to it, but I also talk about software, UI paradigms, satellites, networking, security, robots, hardware design, Arduino, and stupid tricks with a Raspberry Pi and party poppers. It's not quite what you and Rick have mentioned as a virtual LUV meetup, but my main goal with it is to interact with people. I've been doing it for many months now and I've had a few people contact me privately to say it's something they hold on to as being important for their own mental health in this period. It allows them to engage with other people and chat about fun stuff, and think about something other than their immediate situation and the isolation they're feeling. Anyway, I didn't intend for this to be a sales spiel for my livestream. The point is that we can use tools like livestreams as a way to overcome the isolation, and it doesn't take much organisation at all. To do your own livestream can seem quite scary at first, even if you're an experienced public speaker, so if that's not something that you're comfortable doing then attending other livestreams and interacting in the chat is a big help too. There are many regular viewers on my livestream who greet each other at the start of the stream every week, because they see familiar names and build relationships over time. When it's not practical to meet in person, this is just about the next best thing. I'd also love to have guests on my livestream. I have a Pro account with Streamyard so I can bring in external guests onto the stream. If you're interested in trying it out or you have some specific topic you want to cover but don't want to do your own livestream, get in touch and we can see if it would be suitable for you to jump on my stream one Sunday morning. For anyone who has read this far: https://www.youtube.com/superhousetv (previous livestreams are a little way down that page) Cheers Jon
On Tuesday, 11 August 2020 10:53:46 AM AEST Jonathan Oxer wrote:
So when the first isolation period started, I began a weekly 10am Sunday morning livestream where I spend 2 hours interacting with viewers and talking about mostly tech stuff. Obviously there's a strong home automation orientation to it, but I also talk about software, UI paradigms, satellites, networking, security, robots, hardware design, Arduino, and stupid tricks with a Raspberry Pi and party poppers.
Sounds great! Is it child-friendly? IE no profanity etc?
For anyone who has read this far: https://www.youtube.com/superhousetv (previous livestreams are a little way down that page)
-- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/
Hi Russell, On Tue, 11 Aug 2020 at 14:16, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
Is it child-friendly? IE no profanity etc?
Yes, definitely. I never swear on the livestream (and almost never in real life) and I have 5 trusted moderators who participate in the chat with the authority to delete any comments that may get out of hand. I know of several people who put it up on their TV in the living room every Sunday morning with their kids running around. The only time it's become emotionally confronting was one livestream where I specifically talked about the Black Lives Matter protests, racism, injustice, sexism in the tech industry, and how my own attitudes and perspectives have changed over time. With that livestream I said up front that I was going to talk about those issues, so people could decide if they wanted to continue watching or not. But every other time it's just talking about tech related stuff, and sometimes tech-business such as the hidden costs of hardware manufacturing. Cheers Jon
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