you can also use the 6to4 method which uses a generic encapsulation method and routes to the nearest 6to4 router via ipv4 anycast. Pipenetworks and a few other AU ISPs run these gateways. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6to4 it's also mostly trivial to set up in Linux, esp Debian based ones: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#IPv6_6to4_Configuration Before I had native v6, this was my preferred method. Latency, reliability and setup is much better than userspace driven tunnels. It will give a static subnet if your v4 address is also static. However there is no mechanism for ip6.in-addr.arpa delegation. On 13/01/2013, at 7:54, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@gmail.com> wrote:
At 12:22 AM 1/13/2013, Jeremy Visser wrote:
On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 01:59 +0000, James Harper wrote: > Are there any other options for tunnels these days? My ISP keeps > telling me that IPv6 is coming, but that's been the case for a while. Vote with your wallet. Internode have had native IPv6 for years now and it’s not going away any time soon. _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au http://lists.luv.asn.au/listinfo/luv-main
I had a good look last night, and there's not a lot of options.
Gogo6 no longer has a Sydney PoP. Aarnet's tunnel broker is still running, but finding a compatible client is tough these days (the current gogoc does not work with it). There is an Australian provider (IPv6 Now), but you either have to put up with a no frills free tunnel (dynamic IPv6), or pay from $20/month (at least you get a SLA).
The practical options for those of us in .au seem to be:
1. Internode (by far the best option, as you get reliable native IPv6 and reverse DNS delegation). 2. Aarnet (if you can find the right tspc version, no reverse DNS). 3. IPV6 Now (free version has dynamic IPv6 and no rDNS delegation). 4. SixXS (nearest PoP is in New Caledonia, which doesn't have too severe latency).
Anything else has severe latency, due to distance from PoPs. It's a pity Hurricane Electric (he.net) don't have a PoP in .au, as their tunnel broker is rock solid. I use them to provide IPv6 for a VPS in the US, and the latency over IPv6 from here is actually less than IPv4.
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On 13 January 2013 11:36, hannah commodore <hannah@tinfoilhat.net> wrote:
you can also use the 6to4 method which uses a generic encapsulation method and routes to the nearest 6to4 router via ipv4 anycast. Pipenetworks and a few other AU ISPs run these gateways.
Are you sure this is still the case? When I checked (years ago now), there were no gateways in Australia, and I got the distinct impression 6to4 was considered an obsolete/bad idea so this wasn't going to change. -- Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au>
On 13/01/2013, at 13:02, Brian May <brian@microcomaustralia.com.au> wrote:
On 13 January 2013 11:36, hannah commodore <hannah@tinfoilhat.net> wrote:
you can also use the 6to4 method which uses a generic encapsulation method and routes to the nearest 6to4 router via ipv4 anycast. Pipenetworks and a few other AU ISPs run these gateways.
Are you sure this is still the case?
positive. I've used it on a colo server in AU until October or so. The PIPE gateway was very reliable.
When I checked (years ago now), there were no gateways in Australia, and I got the distinct impression 6to4 was considered an obsolete/bad idea so this wasn't going to change.
It's been muted to be obsolete, but it still works fine. I find it a better solution than user land stuff
Before I had native v6, this was my preferred method. Latency, reliability and setup is much better than userspace driven tunnels. It will give a static subnet if your v4 address is also static. However there is no mechanism for ip6.in-addr.arpa delegation.
There was a mechanism for reverse delegation at http://6to4.nro.net/ and it worked last time I tried it but that was a very long time ago. James
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