Hiya, my venerable linksys wrt54gs running openwrt is still going strong, but probably can't handle NBN 100 Mbit even on lobotomised HFC, so I guess it's time for a new router... any recommendations for a 2+ port gigabit and (I guess) AC WiFi that can hopefully run openwrt ok for the next decade? I don't need or want any USB or NAS or gaming. ATA for landline optional. I looked at newer linksys wrt32x but they're $450 from jb (prob $250 from amazon but they don't seem to ship to .au (again)) and also they're outliers running marvel chipsets. after that I just get confused in the maze of 100's of routers that could run openwrt vs. what you can buy today that's an ok price. I'm open to other options if they're interesting or cheaper/better - eg. little arm boards with a couple of gige ports and ac wifi as long as they run centos/fedora/openwrt or similar. thanks! cheers, robin
Robin Humble via luv-main wrote:
Hiya,
my venerable linksys wrt54gs running openwrt is still going strong, but probably can't handle NBN 100 Mbit even on lobotomised HFC, so I guess it's time for a new router...
err Robin ; you mention "NBN 100 Mbit" so fibre-to-the-node/ house ? When I had fibre-to-the-house (Brunswick experimental account); the physical connection from the termination box at the front of the old terrace house; to the desktop router was ethernet cable.; so the old ADSL router had to be replaced. Does the "linksys wrt32" mentioned below; incorporate some kind of dual ADSL/whatever input capacity ? regards Rohan McLeod
Hi Rohan, On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:52:29PM +1100, Rohan McLeod wrote:
Robin Humble via luv-main wrote:
my venerable linksys wrt54gs running openwrt is still going strong, but probably can't handle NBN 100 Mbit even on lobotomised HFC, so I guess it's time for a new router... you mention "NBN 100 Mbit" so fibre-to-the-node/ house ?
sadly, no. HFC == rehashed Foxtel cable. very jealous that you had fibre. it was futile to try and talk the installer folks into stringing fibre instead of new coax from the street (this house hasn't had foxtel before) but I tried anyway. no luck of course... good one Malcolm. I believe next they'll install a NBN box inside that translates the coax into 100/1000 ethernet, so yup as you say, no ADSL functionality is needed any more. my old wrt54gs router only does ethernet and wifi. it's currently behind a ADSL router box that is only doing physical DSL to ethernet, and in front of another crappy iinet router box that's only doing ATA and SIP etc. to landline phone. I trust both of these other boxes only as much as I have to... :-/ I believe my wrt54gs would plug in to the NBN and work ok, but from what I've read its cpu is just too wimpy to do iptables routing at 100 Mbit speed, so it would be a bottleneck for all our gige wired machines. hence need a new router... cheers, robin
It's not what you're asking for, but it'll do the job much better IMHO. https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/ I've been using one of these for a few years now and it has been perfect. Don't miss OpenWRT/Tomato at all On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 6:14 PM Robin Humble via luv-main < luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Hiya,
my venerable linksys wrt54gs running openwrt is still going strong, but probably can't handle NBN 100 Mbit even on lobotomised HFC, so I guess it's time for a new router...
any recommendations for a 2+ port gigabit and (I guess) AC WiFi that can hopefully run openwrt ok for the next decade?
I don't need or want any USB or NAS or gaming. ATA for landline optional.
I looked at newer linksys wrt32x but they're $450 from jb (prob $250 from amazon but they don't seem to ship to .au (again)) and also they're outliers running marvel chipsets.
after that I just get confused in the maze of 100's of routers that could run openwrt vs. what you can buy today that's an ok price.
I'm open to other options if they're interesting or cheaper/better - eg. little arm boards with a couple of gige ports and ac wifi as long as they run centos/fedora/openwrt or similar.
thanks!
cheers, robin _______________________________________________ luv-main mailing list luv-main@luv.asn.au https://lists.luv.asn.au/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luv-main
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:20:09PM +1100, Brett Pemberton wrote:
It's not what you're asking for, but it'll do the job much better IMHO.
https://www.ui.com/edgemax/edgerouter-x/
I've been using one of these for a few years now and it has been perfect. Don't miss OpenWRT/Tomato at all
I was going to say that for the price this sort of thing usually goes for, you'd be better off building a micro-atx PC with 2 or more ethernet ports - but scorptec has them for $85, so they're surprisingly good value. https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Networking-Wired/Routers/66592-ER-X-AU I was expecting them to be $300 or more - you can build a pretty decent PC router running linux for $300, but not for $85 unless you don't care about size or power consumption and can scavenge a free PC to re-use...and a 2-port Intel NIC is going to cost at least $100 or $150 (cheaper if you don't mind using Realtek stuff...some of which is OK, some is garbage. I've been using a TPLink branded Realtek 8169 NIC for my ADSL pppoe link, but I want an Intel gigabit NIC when I upgrade to NBN 100). "I'd be better off building a PC router" is where I always end up whenever I look into openwrt stuff...but this looks pretty good. Good enough to be worth reconsidering, anyway. I'll put these on my list of things to consider when I upgrade to NBN myself soon (FTTC is available in my area), but I expect that the things I want to do on my router/firewall are beyond what any little box is capable of (fail2ban is essential for my network but is also a bloated pig, for example...OTOH, I guess I could get f2b to ssh into the router and run iptables there to do the banning and unbanning) For someone who isn't running their own services (web, mail, gitlab, asterisk, dns, dhcpd, hostapd, and more) on their own /24 network at home, they look pretty good. BTW, these edgerouters can also run openwrt: https://oldwiki.archive.openwrt.org/toh/ubiquiti/ubiquiti_edgerouter_x_er-x_... craig -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>
On 2/1/19 3:49 AM, Craig Sanders via luv-main wrote:
I was going to say that for the price this sort of thing usually goes for, you'd be better off building a micro-atx PC with 2 or more ethernet ports - but scorptec has them for $85, so they're surprisingly good value.
Thanks for the analysis. I'll look at them whenever I decide to upgrade - currently running a Linksys WRT1900 with OpenWRT, which is fine for current purposes. The FreeSWITCH, DNS, mail and Web server are all running over at linode.com.
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