On Thu, 9 Oct 2014, Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
On 9/10/2014 12:51 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
Why don't you find some distribution that is going to stick with an older init system and contribute some code to it?
Perhaps I will move to FreeBSD someday, but in the meantime it seems that it will be possible to run Jessie sans systemd ... so that will buy me time.
If sysvinit works well enough for you in Jessie then why complain?
To make this clearer, if you aren't going to contribute then your comments on mailing lists aren't of any use to anyone. Lots of people want to tell others how to do things, but if they don't have the money to pay someone or the skill to do some work then it doesn't matter.
There are more ways to contribute, opinion is just one way and it should be appreciated like any other type of contribution
No, it's just annoying. Technical analysis of the features and relative merits of different software has some value. Opinion is useless.
-- unless the opinion is misplaced and not indicative of a reasonable number of users; given that so many people share my opinion on systemd, then it sure is not misplaced. Those that support systemd are wiping their feet on sysvinit and deciding that no opposing opinion matters, full stop.
It doesn't matter how many people are wrong. We have technical problems to solve. That's the thing about science, your opinion doesn't change how things work.
systemd is a debacle, good luck making it workable for yourself and others whom believe it is the /right/ way forward irregardless to popular opinion of most users -- including the silenced [moderated posts? thread] majority whom care like myself.
Install it and it just works. The only problem I've seen with systemd is the journal file being excessively fragmented on BTRFS. As you don't use BTRFS that won't be an issue for you, but if you did then you could just configure systemd to limit the size of it's journal (which is a good idea anyway). -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/