On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Anders Holmstrom <anders.sputnik@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 6:43 AM, Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> wrote:
I think that the problem here is users who are too arrogant.
It's simply not your decision what unpaid developers do with their time. We develop the software and you can use it if you like it.
Many Debian users make regular financial contributions. You say only developers contribute to Debian; now that *is* arrogant.
The amount of time I spent on the last version of selinux-policy-default would have earned me $1000 if I'd been doing paid work. Some DDs contributions equate to less than $10,000 a year of their paid time but most of the active DDs contribute a lot more. While some Debian users contribute a few hundred dollars at a time and a donation of $1000 isn't uncommon, it's quite rare for even corporations to donate $10,000 a year or more. Of money that is donated some portion may end up going to a Debconf which means that it gets to DDs. But the DDs who don't attend Debconfs (as I haven't for the last 10 years) get nothing other than the free LWN access (thanks HP) and some free Steam games (thanks Steam). My blog has a donation link. Send me a minimum of $1,000 if you want to tell me what to do. Anything less than $1,000 is just a gratuity for a tiny portion of the work that I've done in the past. I've received free entrance to conferences and other freebies related to lectures I've given. That's not for doing the FOSS coding, it's for talking about it. I have on one occasion had someone give me $US1,000. He didn't have any requests, but if he had some then I'd have listened. If your "contributions" to Debian amount to less than $10,000 per annum then please don't talk to people like Brian, Craig, and I about these things. It's rude. If you have been donating $10,000 a year to the Debian project then keep in mind the fact that Brian, Craig, and I have not received any of that so you still don't get to tell us what to do. For the casual observers to this thread. This is why DD's generally don't read debian-user. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/