Internode has recently stopped accepting outgoing email on port 25, with a switch to SMTPS on port 465. (Found out after outgoing mail was blocked by their mail sevrer, and their helpdesk sent a link to related info.) Though I'd prefer proper postconf commands, the only related postfix config info I've found on the intertubes is a direct edit of /etc/postfix/master.cf to uncomment the SMTPS lines: #smtps inet n - - - - smtpd # -o syslog_name=postfix/smtps # -o smtpd_tls_wrappermode=yes # -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=yes # -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_sasl_authenticated,reject # -o milter_macro_daemon_name=ORIGINATING A quick check of /etc/services shows we already have: ssmtp 465/tcp smtps # SMTP over SSL So after a "postfix reload", outgoing mail was ... still rejected by mail.internode.on.net Hmmm, a "postconf | more" showed: default_transport = smtp so I commented out the SMTP line in /etc/postfix/master.cf : smtp inet n - - - - smtpd Another "postfix reload", and outgoing mail is ... still rejected by mail.internode.on.net The question now is what am I missing? (I'm most reluctant to blow postfix away and start figuring out how to make mutt talk SMTPS by itself At least I have a history of good experiences with postfix MTA.) Erik (Using webmail for the first time. Why does it paste at mouse, not at text cursor?? That's awful.)