On Friday, 30 September 2016 2:54:42 PM AEST Ray via luv-main wrote:
Many thanks for an excellent summing up, I was going to put forward a response but your reply has covered all my points nicely. One thing though I will say is I was quite disturbed about the level of hostility in Russel's post. If systemd's supporters need to resort to this level the obvious conclusion one comes to is systemd cannot be that good.
Wow that's a really bizarre response. In my initial message I linked to my blog post about the abuse I received from anti-systemd people. If "hostility" from advocates implies that a product is deficient then all the homophobic and misogynistic abuse I received in response to a blog post ABOUT TECHNICAL ISSUES OF USING SYSTEMD is surely great evidence of the problems with SysVInit! The "hostility" you accuse me of is merely objecting to being abused by anti- systemd people and having my friends be subject to abuse for their Debian development work. The free sofware you enjoy using is written by many people who spend a lot of their time on it. Time that could be spent doing paid work or in other recreational activities. Fortunately for all of us (including you) the people who were subject to such abuse didn't cease their involvement in free software work (AFAIK) but instead moved to other areas, or in some cases dedicated some time to opposing the abuse. Yes I am spending time writing blog posts and mailing list messages about abuse in the free software community instead of developing free software. Is that REALLY what you want? Can't we just agree that abusing people who develop or support software you don't like is the wrong thing to do? If you want Debian developers to fully support SysVInit what do you think your best strategy is? Do you think that accusing me of "hostility" because I object to profane abuse is going to make me more inclined to support the init system you prefer? Or do you think it might be a better strategy to agree that abusing people who donate their free time to developing software you use for free is a bad thing? PS If you deliberately mis-spelled my name as part of a flame, that's primary- school level. Criticising my "hostile" response towards bullies is high- school level. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/