During a recent discussion on i386 V AMD64 linux a number of people said stay away from Physical Address Extension PAE kernels, althougth no reasons/evidence was given to back up the warning, What is the problem with PAE. A search on the net showed no major problems ascociated with this extension apart from the obvious limited amount of memory avaible for a single process. As stated I have run PAE kernels now for some time with no problems what so ever. On Debian AMD64 I have managed to get wine running but as yet I cannot compile wine itself, the build complaining of no 32 bit compiler (which is correct). Sadly Debian sid will not let me install one without removing alot of packages including xorg, this certainly not what I want. A search on the net came up with a good bit of info on both running and compiling wine on Debian AMD64 unfortunately none of it was recent and some of the info conflicked. So I am going to have a crack at Debian 7.0.0 i386 which I have a set of DVD's for, having obtained them "just in case" . If its required re intallation of Sid is a non issue with apt-move and saving the package selections. Although there's one minor gripe apt-move will store the AMD64 packages OK but will not handle the i386 items (on the system for wine). The actual amount of data invloved is only around 100meg so its not a real major issue. Lindsay