On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, zlinw@mcmedia.com.au wrote:
I am trying to make a decision based on good and reliable evidence and I do
When Debian/Jessie is relased you can just try it out and that will be your "good and reliable evidence". Just test the different distributions and see which one works best.
apreciate that if one spends all the time reading stuff on the net one will never get anything done. The problem from a person outside the immediate discussion on systemd is that there are ___plenty___ of sites running down systemd but I have yet to find a site that presents the pro case in an un biased manner, one certainly cannot rely on its main developers for such data. From my experience on researching information on computor systems such an absence is likely to mean there is no such evidence.
Not that you are going to find "anti" sites that are unbiased.
Note, Russel mentioned something that does complicate the issue, that is if systemd devs will not except Debians input they may fork it.
Systemd is no different from any other Debian package in this regard.
This changes the situation quite a bit as I have far more trust in the Debian devs than some maverick developers going against all unix traditions. We the debian users though would still like to know debians pro case.
Read the discussions on debian-devel.
If we the general Linux user is expected to make a rational judgment we must have both cases presented in a decent fashion, simply saying most users do not need to know the pro case will almost surely end up in a grave misscarriage of justice.
I think that the problem here is users who are too arrogant. It's simply not your decision what unpaid developers do with their time. We develop the software and you can use it if you like it. I can't think of any way to reasonbly equate "justice" to "non-contributors getting to give orders to people who do the work". There are two good options to you and other users who want to get involved with such discussions. Adjust your attitude to your status or adjust your status to match your attitude. To adjust your status you can start contributing to Debian. If you are unwilling or unable to do that then adjust your attitude to one that includes some gratitude to the people who develop the software you use. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/