hello All, Many thanks to Craig Sanders for help so far. I have found the binary sane-utils packages for sid, but too much conflicts to go that way. I have managed to locate and download the source files, sane-backends_1.0.27.orig.tar.gz, sane-backends_1.0.27.debian.tar.gz and sane-backends_1.0.27.dsc and put them in a directory. I tried using "apt-get src" to no effect, complained that could not find the source package, but finally understood the Debian site with Firefox, at least in that regard. Now I am looking at building my own backport, and looking at using dpkg-buildpackage. I would appreciate advice and comments about usage, what to do to prepare and the like. I will be looking at web searches, along with reading the manpage which I currently have up, but still not quite understanding, yet. All help is appreciated. Regards, Mark Trickett