A couple of points in my defense.......... The main problem with CD/DVD vendors of Linux distributions is the reliablity of the burning. Becuase of my relative isolation I have been using such CD/DVD sets for years and around half of the supplied sets __will__ have writing faults, particularly anyone using those awfull no-name media. ie most. If you install directly from the sets this may not be an issue as the faulty files may not be being used but as i recover all files and build my own repository this is an issue I regularly come across. This is why I have asked for ISO images as this problem does not apply. Second point, While it would be nice to come down to a LUV meeting this takes a good portion of a whole day and the trip down and back wil cost around 100 dollars, for such money a could bye line time to down load the 3 DVD's. Another point here like a good number of people living in rural areas I do not like driving in Melbourne and I certainly am __NOT__ comfortable about finding parking around North Melbourne in the afternoon peak hour and driving home at 0200 in the morning is no picknick these days. Its all got to hard, I will think of another way around the problem. Thankyou to the two people that responded with offers, it was apreciated. Linux for 20 years, Lindsay