-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 3/08/2015 4:13 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 10:22:49 AM Carl Turney wrote:
Not IBM, Dell, or HP (personal)
AFAIK IBM doesn't make laptops. Lenovo bought the Thinkpad line from IBM and they have done a good job of producing good products.
True about IBM, but Lenovo screwed themselves with Superfish ... so I've got to rule them out as a bad player, very bad player. Why not Dell? They have had an XPS Developer version [and some other options now] with Ubuntu being the OS provided. Sadly though, getting one of the Dell units brand new in AU has been impossible to date -- unless it has recently changed. Given that Dell has gone through a number of versions, there is a possibility of getting one second hand. http://bartongeorge.net/2015/04/09/4th-gen-dell-xps-13-developer-edition - -available/ "4th gen Dell XPS 13 developer edition available! I would first like to thank everyone for their patience and support as we worked through various bugs that crept up. This has taken longer than we would have liked but I’m happy to say that as of today, the Dell XPS 13 developer edition is now available in the United States, Canada and Europe!" Wish they would sell these in AU :( Really what I would like is a Librem, but the price is too high in my opinion; however if enough people choose this option, then there is a possibility it could help with scale and pricing. https://puri.sm/librem-15/ NB: For many, they price may be right.... and it really might be for me, but not right now; you often get what you pay for. Anyone with a Librem 15 able to give a good review and let us know if it is or is not really good value, even though it is at the premium end of pricing?
http://www.graysonline.com/computers-and-electronics/computers-and-it- equipment/laptops?method-of-sale=auction-items-only
Anyway Grays Online has worked well for me for buying laptops. Refurbished name-brand laptops are cheap and have good specs.
If Grays Online has a it as a refurbished unit; remember, it is refurbished for a reason. You can get good value, you might not get all the /normal/ inclusions and you may not get normal full warranty. A. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iF4EAREIAAYFAlW/SuoACgkQqBZry7fv4vvLHAEAjcuj8tI1gnC8hUqAOkrcZI3b vVPY/djkn3DWeCYg3VABAMjP7ztDjgohUpGADg8NSxFF1PCYDYeudxDdCEgQGvyC =CEyi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----