We're on NBN via HFC through Internode (aka TPG).  Despite the house already having two cable connections (ex Telstra & Optus), Telstra, providing contracting services for NBN, installed a new connection into our study (as specified by me). This included a new cable from the pole (they removed the old Telstra cable), the termination box on the exterior wall, a new internal socket adjacent to the skirting board and the Aris 8200 cable modem.

Therefore I suppose that the first socket I can connect to is the RJ45 on the cable modem.  To which Internode (no doubt forced by TPG) supplied that god awful Huawei HG659 wireless modem/router.  It's required because it's internally configured to carry the NBN phone (voip) service and despite some hackery of said device, I was unable to get my ASUS router/modem to maintain a stable voip connection. In the end I created a DMZ on the HG659 and put my ASUS router into it such the HG659 is only doing the initial service connection and carrying the voice service.

BTW when we first signed up I too had to waive the CSG.  They explained that the CSG was based on old physically connected POTS services.  This would appear to be corroborated by ACMA. See https://www.acma.gov.au/Citizen/Phones/Landlines/Phone-connection-and-repair/customer-service-guarantee-for-phone-users-faqs

The same page indicates that NBN may not be covered as it's an "Internet service".

On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 01:16, Jason White via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
Tom Robinson via luv-main <luv-main@luv.asn.au> wrote:
> I may have confused 'kindness' for 'service' above. I think the Telstra Tech. I've been dealing with
> has just 'lent a hand' and fixed my socket on the wall. I'm beginning to think that the Network
> Boundary Point has always been a termination either somewhere on the outside of the house or on the
> yard/street boundary somewhere.

I don't know whether this has changed, but when I last read about it, the
network termination point was defined as the first socket (i.e., to which
customer equipment can be connected).

When a Telstra Network Termination Device was installed at my family's home in
Melbourne, with ADSL filtering included, it was a box outside the house.
However, there was a "test socket" inside the box, so, technically, the
network boundary point still was the first socket.

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