My 2c as a member who has attended most meetings over the past 2 years.<div><br></div><div>I honestly don&#39;t get much time to read mailing lists. I&#39;m a member of at least 10 and for me I feel my contribution to the groups I attend is my attendance. I turn up, I discuss, I participate. Personally, I think that is the reason LUV exists, so members can participate in events and discuss linux. It can easily go 2 months between reading mailing lists. The administration of the group is not my primary concern, and neither should it be. I&#39;m just a Linux user in Victoria.</div>
<div><br></div><div>With that said, I heard some rumblings about this the meeting before the last AGM. I passed it off as something I would have plenty of time to deal with. </div><div><br></div><div>I was shocked, reading the mailing list on the tram on the way to the AGM that it was happening now! I didn&#39;t feel as a member that my interests had been considered nor that I&#39;d had time to consider. All of my research on the issue was done on that tram trip and at the AGM.</div>
<div><br></div><div>With that said, on the actual issue at hand, I felt that there was a cloudy exploration of the issues at hand by both sides, I don&#39;t feel like the for and against was really tabled. </div><div><br>
</div><div>So here is what I heard:</div><div><br></div><div>For (dissolution):</div><div>Less administrative overheard</div><div>Free insurance</div><div><br></div><div>Against</div><div>More people involved in making decisions (more decision making <span></span>overhead, less agility)</div>
<div>Financial overhead not an issue at present</div><div>Uncertainty over sponsorship of Victorian centered organizations being willing to sponsor a national organization </div><div><br></div>Personally, I am for MORE Linux groups. I attend mlug, Luv, Free software melbourne. It gives me choice, calendar flexibility and a bigger / broader social group. I think the amount of events will suffer if these groups get absorbed by a larger whole. <br>
<div><br></div><div>-Noah<br><br>On Friday, September 6, 2013, James Harper  wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">&gt; Quoting Russell Coker (<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;russell@coker.com.au&#39;)">russell@coker.com.au</a>):<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://etbe.coker.com.au/2013/09/04/ownership-of-a-club/" target="_blank">http://etbe.coker.com.au/2013/09/04/ownership-of-a-club/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I liked:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;   During the discussion we had some input from members who were<br>
&gt;   typically lurkers who seemed to feel that their property rights towards<br>
&gt;   LUV were being infringed, this annoys me. I think that if someone<br>
&gt;   chooses not to be involved in running an organisation then they should<br>
&gt;   choose not to concern themselves with the details of how the<br>
&gt;   organisation is to be run.<br>
&gt;<br>
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Interesting contrast to the federal election we&#39;re about to have...<br>
<br>
James<br>
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