I gave up on flash / youtube / other videos in firefox/iceweasel ages ago. mostly because i don't want to enable all the scripting that video sites "require" on my main browser. recent versions of iceweasel in experimental have great support for HTML5 videos but I still don't want to watch videos in my primary browser. instead, i installed Chromium, the open-source version of google chrome. this has an updated flash player built-in (newer than the stand-alone linux version which works with firefox). Watching youtube etc videos is pretty much the only thing i use Chromium for, so i'm not too worried about the tracking spyware. I use the adblock and NotScripts plugins for chromium, so javascript is disabled on sites by default unless I turn it on. BTW, i use yet another browser (Midori) for facebook, which (unfortunately) is the only way i can keep in touch with some friends....and, again, I never use that browser for anything else. Of course, I enable the adblock plugin for midori too. i also use epiphany (ugh!), konqueror, and an ancient iceape for some other sites I visit occasionally (like my online banking) and want to keep isolated from everything else. epiphany used to be my facebook browser but gnome stuff has been getting crappier and crappier and hostile to non-gnome desktop environments over the last few years so I don't use it much any more. craig ps: the version of midori in debian (0.4.3+dfsg-0.2) is truly ancient, so I downloaded an updated version (0.5.8-1~precise~ppa1) from the midori web site: http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html this is much newer and nicer with many bugfixes and improvements. it also supports HTML5 video. highly recommended. Midori's become quite a decent web browser. yes, that is an ubuntu-ish sounding version number but it is the debian package that i downloaded and installed. it installs and runs in debian sid with no problems. $ dpkg -I midori_0.5.8-1_amd64_.deb [...] Package: midori Version: 0.5.8-1~precise~ppa1 Architecture: amd64 Maintainer: Ryan Niebur <ryan@debian.org> Installed-Size: 5180 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.31.8), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libjavascriptcoregtk-1.0-0 (>= 1.5.1), libnotify4 (>= 0.7.0), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libsoup-gnome2.4-1 (>= 2.27.4), libsoup2.4-1 (>= 2.33.92), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.5.9), libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 (>= 1.7.92), libx11-6, libxml2 (>= 2.7.4), libxss1, dbus-x11 Recommends: gnome-icon-theme Conflicts: libsoup2.4-1 (<< 2.25.2) Provides: www-browser Section: web Priority: optional Homepage: http://www.twotoasts.de/index.php?/pages/midori_summary.html Description: fast, lightweight graphical web browser Midori is a lightweight web browser based on WebKit. . Its features include: . * Full integration with GTK+2. * Fast rendering with WebKit. * Tabs, windows and session management. * Flexibly configurable Web Search. * User scripts and user styles support. * Straightforward bookmark management. * Customizable and extensible interface. * Support for extensions (written in C). * Custom context menu actions. -- craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au> BOFH excuse #268: Neutrino overload on the nameserver