Success.... At last! I was getting no where on Debian 8, glancing at Debian 9 spec, it said it had support for G4 modems, so I install debian 9, with network mangager..............still no joy .........ssssssiiiiggghhhhhh. Anyway this morning I was ready for a challaenge so I decided to have another go. I ran the command "nmcli connection show" to see what was happening and was stunned to find the following report........... ---------------------------------------------------------------- enx0c5b8f279a64: connected to Wired connection 3 "HUAWEI MOBILE" ethernet (rndis_host), 0C:5B:8F:27:9A:64, hw, mtu 1500 ip4 default inet4 192.168.8.100/24 inet6 fe80::4636:a274:6574:96fa/64 enp5s0: unavailable "Marvell 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Motherboard)" ethernet (sky2), 20:CF:30:7E:C3:09, hw, mtu 1500 lo: unmanaged loopback (unknown), 00:00:00:00:00:00, sw, mtu 65536 DNS configuration: servers: 192.168.8.1 interface: enx0c5b8f279a64 servers: 192.168.254.1 domains: mydomain.example interface: enp6s0 --------------------------------------------------------- Its enx0c5b8f279a64 that I am looking for, it now works OK, interestingly connection time is slower than with windows but transfer rates appear to be good. Why I did not do this before, god knows............ God its great to getaway from bl...y awfull windows................. Now all (ALL!!!) I have to do is to reconfig my fire wall on to this box and my small network is back on the air. Lindsay