On 10/10/2014 8:50 PM, James Harper wrote:
I had been emailing Don Armstrong, a DD, about my concerns.
One very worrying aspect of that was the choice was either systemd or upstart; there should have been a third option to continue entirely with the status quo of sysvinit -- that third option wasn't a consideration.
Got a citation for that?
Everything I've read is that the vote was for one of 5 choices: " D systemd U upstart O openrc V sysvinit (no change) F requires further discussion "
I've read so much, unfortunately alot more negative -- I was wrong, you are right. Thank you.
And that there was only one vote for the status quo, and that person voted for further discussion in preference to that.
(https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2014/02/msg00281.html)
This post has made quite a difference in my understanding and views going forward: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html - consequently, I am now *much* less concerned about systemd troubles. I am still not happy about how the DU list is being handled, but that isn't systemd itself. They need a more open discussion list, such as luv-talk, where almost anything goes and ideas / views / opinions can be openly discussed without fear of moderation and/or filtering of conversations that may or may not be relevant or applicable to the general user base and without a dictator like ruling to hide things under the carpet as if they were never said. Cheers A.