It seems that we may have access to hardware for running training on Xen. At this stage it's not certain whether we get hardware and whether we get hosting. But it's a possibility and the outcome of this discussion may change the probability of it happening. A good time for this might be the beginner's SIG, not because training would be just for beginners, but because it's a good way of getting net access. If that isn't a good option then we could do it at some other time and place. I have enough unused quota on my 3G Internet connection for this that I can share via Wifi and apart from long ping times 3G net access is quite good for such things (ssh requires little bandwidth). I'm thinking of running training on some of the basic Internet protocols. DNS (including dynamic updates), SMTP (including SMTP-auth, IMAP, and maybe SQL authentication), DKIM, HTTP (maybe setting up something like Wordpress or MediaWiki), and whatever gets interest. If this idea takes off then probably other people would offer various training. Ideally all the virtual servers would have public IP addresses so anyone who wishes could go home and keep working on it - and discuss it on this list. Also we can use real world DNS etc so things can work the way they really work. When you setup a mail server you can send mail to gmail etc for testing. Note that we haven't necessarily got the hardware or a place to run it. So at this time there's no guarantee that it will happen. I can probably get hosting with plenty of IPv4 addresses but it will have limited bandwidth - but enough for 30 DomUs if everyone plays nicely. Also I haven't discussed this with the LUV committee, I'm raising it here first because if there isn't interest then we can skip the committee discussion. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/