On 02.04.15 23:01, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 09:56:16PM +1100, Erik Christiansen wrote:
Anything to reliably view video clips will do.
either iceweasel or chromium will display youtube videos, html5 and even flash if you have the flashplugin-nonfree installed. youtube's flash viewer works with the ancient linux flash.
Ah, here's a flashplugin-nonfree: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/flashplugin-nonfree/download Oooh, and the other one for chromium: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/i386/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/... Many thanks! The first allows iceweasel to play BBC news clips. There is a longer wait, and there are no controls: it does not appear possible to switch to fullscreen, or even pause play. (Quite useful, since BBC auto-start the next clip on the tail of the previous, and whack in an advertisement for our delectation. OK, close tab stops that crap.)
vimeo videos seems to work ok in those browsers too.
Yes, that worked without any flashplugin.
on other sites, results will vary.
It does all seem to be a shambles. Back on ubuntu 10.04, it just worked, and it was faster.
as others have suggested, if you really need a recent flash for some videos, try google chrome. not chromium, chrome.
Oh. Wikipedia tells me that "Google Chrome is a freeware web browser". I had thought it was an OS ... or tablet platform, or somesuch. So, trying: $ apt-cache search chrome chromium - Google's open source chromium web browser chromium-browser - Chromium browser - transitional dummy package ... I'll try harder to find it later, but trying chromium with pepperflashplugin-nonfree first, I get "You need to install FlashPlayer to play this content." on the first BBC video clip that I click on. So pepperflashplugin-nonfree isn't doing much good for chromium - it could manage to not play BBC clips without help.
for BBC stuff, though, get_iplayer should be a better bet than flash shit. and you get to download the video to watch whenever you want in the player of your choice, without the hassles of streaming.
With time, I could probably figure out something like: $ get_iplayer <url_pasted_from_clipboard> -c mplayer ... discovering and twiddling options till it works. But it all seems an egregious step backwards from ubuntu 10.04, where it all just worked with nothing more than clickery-pokery in firefox.
On the emc-users ML there's occasionally links to some CNC machine-porn [...] (All on youtube)
if it's on youtube, it should be viewable in either iceweasel or chromium. depending on the video, you may need the non-free flash plugin installed. it's packaged for debian as flashplugin-nonfree (actually, that's an installer package that downloads the flash plugin, installs it, and sets it up properly in debian).
Thanks again. That's exactly how it went. e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFrVdoOhu1Q OK, that's not highly linuxy, but there is fleeting reference to harddrive air bearings.
install that. DON'T install just any random shit you download from the net (even from adobe's site) because you will probably mess up your system if you do. don't stray from the packaging system unless you know what you're doing and why.
After first losing X, then the ability to boot, I'm wiser now. Not smarter - just wiser. ...
most likely, iceweasel in jessie or testing will work well enough for you. if not, try the version in experimental. if you try to install it and it wants to install more than about 3 or 4 packages, just abort - it's not worth the likely resulting mess.
I'm still on an older one, wheezy/updates/main: $ apt-cache policy iceweasel iceweasel: Installed: 31.5.3esr-1~deb7u1 Candidate: 31.6.0esr-1~deb7u1 Version table: 37.0-1 0 1 http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ experimental/main i386 Packages 31.6.0esr-1~deb7u1 0 500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages *** 31.5.3esr-1~deb7u1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 31.3.0esr-1~deb7u1 0 500 http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages I'll try the "-t experimental" bit after I've had my computer back for more than a few hours, all of them spent futzing. At least debian 7.8.0 is better than ubuntu 14.04, which on two installs presented a blank desktop, without any menus, either visible or accessible through mousing past a perimeter edge, and without any mouse clickery that I could fluke, to invoke an xterm. I.e. no perceptible means of making the computer do anything other than open a document or "folder". Thanks again for persisting with this. Erik